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[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What does Disney princess have to do with medieval?

[–] koetje78@feddit.nl 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They're kids, not historians. Medieval means knights and princesses to them. Which means Disney princesses. Let them have fun.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think Plant wanted to deny their fun, just curious what the connection was.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Probably because it's much easier to find Disney princess costumes than medieval ones, plus (in the US at least) nobility of any type is almost exclusively associated with the medieval period outside of occasionally remembering that the British monarchy exists.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well I know at least 2 of them that are iconic and from a medieval-looking settings.

Snow White and Cinderella.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Neither are really princesses though. They are just “Disney female lead”.

Mulan KINDA works.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Their stories are about falling in love and end with them marrying princes. Making them princesses.

But also: Snow White was a princess from the very start. That's why the witch needed her gone; to usurp her throne.

Mulan does not even KINDA work vs these two if you want more than just "female disney lead."

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sleeping Beauty is also in a medieval setting and canonically a princess.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's who I wanted to mention instead of Cinderella. Could not remember the name tho. 🤣

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've not seen Brave, but I think it's roughly tudor-period, and her dad's a king, so I guess that also counts

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are set in the medieval period, no?

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are they actual princesses though? The ones that are, aren’t in medieval times.

You could dress up as Princess Diana if it’s just “princesses”.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are they actual princesses though?

Yep, they are included in the official princess lineup, which currently has 13 members.

Golden- and silver-era princesses:

  • Snow White
  • Cinderella
  • Aurora (Sleeping Beauty)

Renaissance-era princesses:

  • Ariel
  • Belle
  • Jasmine
  • Pocahontas
  • Mulan

Revival-era princesses:

  • Tiana
  • Rapunzel
  • Merida (the only Pixar princess)
  • Moana
  • Raya

Note: Anna and Elsa were deemed "too successful" to be included in the princess franchise, and instead got their own "Frozen" franchise.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Umm those aren’t princesses…. Just Disney main lead that they use that term incorrectly for…

A princess is royalty who holds titles as well as duties. How many for the REAL definition, not Disney’s made up one?

Umm those aren’t princesses…. Just Disney main lead that they use that term incorrectly for…

How many for the REAL definition, not Disney’s made up one?

I think the only exception in the Disney lineup is for Mulan. The rest are all either born royal or marry royal.

  • ✅ Snow White: Daughter of the King and Queen
  • ✅ Cinderella: Marries Prince Charming
  • ✅ Aurora: Daughter of King Stefan
  • ✅ Ariel: Daughter of King Triton
  • ✅ Belle: Marries Prince Adam (yes, The Beast has a name)
  • ✅ Jasmine: Daughter of the Sultan of Agrabah
  • ✅ Pocahontas: Daughter of the Powhatan Chieftain
  • ❌ Mulan: Neither born royal nor marries royal
  • ✅ Tiana: Marries Prince Naveen
  • ✅ Rapunzel: Daughter of the King and Queen of Corona
  • ✅ Merida: Daughter of King Fergus of DunBroch
  • ✅ Elsa: Daughter of the King and Queen of Arendelle
  • ✅ Anna: Daughter of the King and Queen of Arendelle
  • ✅ Moana: Daughter of Chief Tui
  • ✅ Raya: Daughter of Chief Benja

I suppose one could argue whether or not Chiefs are royalty, but culturally the role is more or less equivalent.

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, they specified medieval, not princesses. And you would be surprised I guess by the amount of people who wouldn’t mind having a discussion about the absurdity of it.

People like different parties ;) try going to one first maybe.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

How many for the REAL definition, not Disney’s made up one?

Does this really matter? It's pedantry for the sake of it. We use terms like "princess" and "queen" colloquially to refer to groups with a shared identity, and they're all made up. Whether they have a tangential relationship to royalty doesn't really matter when you're talking about aesthetics and archetypes.

I'd suggest using "royal princess" to separate the terms and move on. There are plenty of cultural reasons to use "Disney princess" as a symbol that only incidentally relates to the company or royalty.