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Soup in my opinion had to be 60-70% liquid
For example chili is not a soup as it’s mostly meat, beans, and vegetables with not as much liquid.
Stew is just a thicc soup
Now help me understand where stew and porridge fit in. Also what the fuck is cream of wheat, because I'm not sure if that's any of the above or just mud: "soft, sticky matter resulting from the mixing of earth and water."
Is a pie a vessel that holds stew? Like a shepherds pie or apple pie both seem like stew in pastry. But then does again aren't calzones and pierogis dumplings?
Sorry, I've just got some food identification questions
Porridge is more like wetter oatmeal, but doesn't have to be oats. Cream of wheat probably classifies as a porridge. I prefer barley porridge.
Stew (and gumbo) is thicker than soup, the liquid being more like gravy, so potpies are kinda like a pastry full of stew often made as single servings.
Shepherd's pie can be that wet but isn't always and has a roof of mashed potatoes and no pastry. It's really not a pie at all.
If calzone and pierogi are dumplings then so are pastel and empanadas. Personally I'm fine with that.
If I'm wrong about any of these I would enjoy being corrected, but these are all things I cook with some regularity so my opinions are deeply held.
Thanks for the serious response, I honestly learned from your response that shepherds pie didn't have pastry, I thought it was like a chicken pot pie with different fillings. (Thicker/with red meat vs thinner and poultry I guess is what I thought)
What do you do for your empanadas? And do you think I could just start my dough like a pizza dough, cut and crimp them similar to a perogi and then fry them? Maybe that's what I'll do for dinner tonight. What do you put in them?
Empanadas is one I might disappoint you on. I frequently cheat and use plain old pie crust, sometimes homemade, but often store bought. Once built, I chill them to not quite frozen and fry them in my fish fryer. Baked empanadas are just hand pies, by my reckoning.
The entirety of Mexican cuisine would like a word with you
As soon as someone says like don't like beans in their chili I think that chili is going to be out of my budget. Most foods heavily rely on other things to help fill you up. Chili you can't exactly put random carbs into to keep the cost down. Onions and peppers cook down for great flavors but minimal filling. Sure you could add more cheese and sour cream which keto diets would probably love but that isn't getting your cost / filler down.
My stomach is likely just to big, I need to cut portions and let it shrink
Oh yeah, I'd love it to be sans beans.. it's just not going to be cost worthy for my budget. Good chili makes sense to not have beans, but whispers privilege, haha
Yeah space is the issue. I personally had 13 chickens and just reduced the size yesterday to 7 because egg production was to high and good laying hens are worth more alive than butchering. Also, I love the boogers so I couldn't eat them. The amount of space it takes to have a garden that could sustain 2 people is around 4 acres really. Unpractical for most people. Also impossible to have animals in that area without containing them to tiny areas many wouldn't agree with. Self sufficiency is rough in the confines we practice most places... But expanding areas only hurts society in other ways. (Drive times, resource usage, etc)
I get what you mean though.