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What is Cyberpunk?
Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.
Cyberpunk characteristics include:
- Dystopian city setting where mega-corporations rule
- Full integration of technology into society, featuring cybernetic implants
- Outsider protagonists (punks) who often are very familiar with the technology around them
- Hard boiled detective and film noir vibes and influence
- Themes dabbling in trans-humanism, existentialism, and what it means to be human.
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Is there a single devoted fan of the Tron series? I legitimately can't remember a single person actually caring about it. That and Avatar. Did anyone actually care about Avatar?
I wouldn't call myself a fan of the series, but I really liked Tron: Legacy. As a package I just thought it was a great experience and I was eager for more at the time.
If it wasn't for Jared Leto, I'd probably have given Ares a shot. But I have zero interest with him as the main character.
Oh shit, he is the main character? Sorry, live under a rock and didn't even bother before to check what role he has. Guess it is a nope from me too then.
Understandable, I can see where you're coming from.
I was a devoted fan of the first Tron film, back when that was all there was.
Now that there's a franchise with multiple films, shows, video games, etc., I'm still a devoted fan of the first Tron film and that's all.
The OG tron arcade game was my jam.
It’s Whoville for nerds!
give Tron 2.0 a shot if you like FPS. solid, fun game.
some of it's repetitive but haha frisbee go brrrrrr
I haven't seen it, and I don't know anything about it. Only reference I've ever seen to the franchise was in the second Wreck it Ralph movie (the shit one).
I’m a huge fan of TRON. I have a sealed vhs of the original, all the games, I even got the stupid $100 preorder statue for TRON: Evolution. I can admit the stories aren’t great, but the atmosphere and aesthetic is something I’ll never get enough of.
The first one was absolutely kick ass if you were an eight year old video game/computer nerd when it came out.
I used to work with a guy that swore he thought Avatar was one of the greatest movies ever made, he owned multiple copies on different formats
I judge movies and books by how much I remember the next day. I'm not too bright and easily excited, gotta sleep on it.
Avatar was awesome on the big screen. Totally forgotten the next day. Watched it maybe twice more, pretty sure it's on the server, still don't remember it.
Yeah it's a pretty basic space Pocahontas, it's not really exploring any new ideas
Huh. I mean, I'm sure it's a decent enough movie, but it just completely lacks any cultural impact. It's not known for anything besides blue people.
The impact of Avatar is the technologies that James Cameron has advanced in order to create it. Avatar will lead to better cameras, techniques and movies. The story is just an excuse to get Disney to give him the money he needs to pursue his craft.
He really is just a mad scientist tricking Disney and the movie going public into funding his tech projects. He wanted a personal submarine, so he made a movie about the Titanic.
I spent a fair bit of time trying to understand how he came to this conclusion, it confuses me to this day.
Tron fan here. The movies are about how software should be free
Avatar is great. One of the few mainstream films to directly challenge anthropocentrism and colonialism. The films are some of the highest grossing of all time, so I'm not alone in appreciating them.
I know that they made a fuck ton of money, but the appreciation just seems hollow from most people. I don't remember anyone I know seeing the sequel or caring about its existence. I guess it had to have been seen by a lot of people for it to make that much. Maybe most people forgot about it the next day? Hell if I know. Fair enough opinion.
I don't think people would want to watch the second film so much that they made it the third best selling in the world if they no longer cared about the first. The core of the plot in each is very easy to remember. I'm sure many people just watch for entertainment, but that doesn't take away from the films' quality. One could enjoy The Matrix for the fight scenes, but it would still have its value as a statement on conformity, a look into the simulation hypothesis, or the trans allegory that it is, among other things.
Avatar is mostly about the groundbreaking 3d visuals. It basically has just enough story to justify the beautiful settings.
It’s not exactly an original plot. It has the same plot as, off the top of my head:
Tron, yes, unless we have pretty different opinions on what constitutes devoted. I had a watch party in prep for the first sequel coming out. // Avatar, I low key hate that movie but I still think this sounds almost sarcastic when asked. I mean it has its own dedicated section of Disney World. That's not something they did lightly. Things have died down some but people were obsessed.
Wait really, since when? And I don't think that Disney really knows what consumers want. They've had quite a few massive flops in the past few years, and not nearly as many hits as they should've. The true success of a franchise is in the number of ao3 tags and fan theories. I have never met a person that cares about the blue people, or ever did. I assure you, I'm not being sarcastic, just flabbergasted.
2017, lower left.
Oh, that's in Disney California Adventure (don't really know what it is tbh). Apparently it hasn't been built yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%E2%80%93_The_World_of_Avatar
It's both? The one in FL is inside Animal Kingdom and has been open for 8 years.
California Adventure is a separate park that was built on top of the original sprawling Disneyland parking lot, directly outside the entrance. Part of that is planned to be converted to an Avatar themed section, but as you note, construction has not yet begun.
I'm not a big Disney fan, I just know what the internet tells me. My mistake.
Nor I. I have been to California Adventure once and the map posted above didn't jive with my memory of the place, so I went down a Google rabbit hole and shared my findings.
The last airbender or the blue people?
Airbender rules. Blue people no one seems super high on but also those movies make billions so idk
Blue people, ofc.
Avatar had Banshees from StarCraft in it, that shit was amazing
I know some. He's still salty it didn't win any awards that year. Yes, the first one, over forty years ago.
I liked the move though. Fun. Award shows are just Hollywood circle jerks, so cares if Tron didn't win anything?
I love avatar, it rocks
The second Avatar was actually decent. And I honestly went into it wanting to hate it lol
I've only seen like the first 20 minutes of the second Avatar, but from that it seemed like it was just the first one, but again. Like, even the villain was the same guy from the first one, resurrected by the blue cat people's earth magic. Is there actually a twist that makes it worthwhile, or is it really just Big Cat People 2: Electric Bluegaloo?
There's water!
It's actually not though, it's pretty good. I dunno man, I thought it was pretty fun.
I mean, it's not like John Cassavetes, but it's enjoyable if you're in the mood.