Pragmatic Leftist Theory
The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.
Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.
This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.
If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.
Rules:
-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.
-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.
-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.
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When are we going to stop pretending these allegedly-leftist agitators are actually on the left?
Anyone genuinely on the left would not waste their efforts infighting.
Infighting is the most ancient and hallowed of all leftist traditions.
Yeah you get a lot of opinionated, strong willed, free thinkers together and it kind of comes with the territory. We really should learn to pick our battles though- we should solve the big important things first and then we can squabble over the details.
is it? or is that like how "socialism doesn't work" because the CIA keeps murdering anyone who tries it?
Unless the CIA was founded during the French Revolution, I'm pretty sure it is.
> tankies aren't really leftist
Correct.
> no true leftists would infight
Ehhhhh.
No true leftist would infight an admitted socialist when there are milquetoast centrists and psychotic fascists on the menu
Are you sure?
Have you checked?
It's true by definition. If a person's efforts are fighting people on the left then they are by definition not on the left.
So two people pointing at each other, insisting the other doesn't really represent the left.
Nevermind, I'm sure that's trivial to sort out. There's no deeper philosophical conflicts. Critical support can never be wrong.
The person in the image doesn't care about philosophy. They just post outrage to farm engagement.
You can see ohnoooo, right? Each of you is claiming the other does not exist.
Any true leftist would fight any Nazi pretty much any time, sorry you don't get that
Must be a right-wing agitator to call a socialist a Nazi, enjoy your block
Eeehh, infighting is kind of the logo of the far left.
Far right too, for that matter, horse shoe theory and all, I guess
I'd like to believe at least some of it is false flag ops. Or foreign powers seeking to create more chaos and disruption. But, some of it is people pushing for an acceleration of leftist policies. They see socialism succeeding in China, and Europe, and become frustrated that it's so demonized at home. They see unfathomable deaths unnecessary in parts of the world, and become self-knighted champions to fight against it. They mean well. They just don't have the patience of years of watching the pace of change creep, to emotionally deal with someone not instantly converted to their cause the way they were.
How does someone interested in leftist policies see the runaway success of a socialist, in this climate, as a thing to demonize? They don't. Anyone targeting Mamdani feels threatened by socialist policies, or is paid by someone who does.
They're dumbass attention whores. Sorry, bub, the left attracts dumb fucks, too
A huge portion of social media is from bots. Twitter removed millions of bots this week and it doesn't even dent the bot population there.
Foreign countries target American media because its military + nuclear arsenal is unbeatable in a full-scale war. No country would ever consider a war with America, so as a result efforts are dedicated to weakening it from within through psyops. Hence, lemmy.ml exists.
Yea you guys aren't that important lmao. Even americans leftists are suppremacists AHAHAH
https://www.cybercom.mil/Media/News/Article/3895345/russian-disinformation-campaign-doppelgnger-unmasked-a-web-of-deception/
Huh?
Thank you for revealing you are a fascist so I know to block you
A fascist?
You piece of shit two days ago I saw a turkish kid getting georgefloyed and i talked shit to the cop to get georgefloyed with him. I was in detention for 12 hours. I saw multiple people their face completely destroyed by police violence
What have you done beside whining about tankies on the internet and jerking off, you cowardy scum