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[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One of the fallacies of the EU anti-charger legislation is that the buyer may well have multiple USB-C chargers, but not have one which fulfills the charging requirements of the device (USB-C power delivery is a complicated thicket of wattages and capabilities as this PC World article notes: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2331534/the-bewildering-world-of-usb-c-charging-explained.html ).

The 96W charger shown is at the higher end of USB-C's power delivery profiles, which further lessens the chance that a user will have an optimal charger on hand.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, the law was made for micro-USB and USB-C is a mess...

To make it worse, some companies decided the top voltage would be 18V, while others use 21V or anything in between... So it's not clear if the power brick you brought, that satisfies all the numbers from the device will actually be useful to charge the device.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It sure sucks that USB-C is such a mess. I was promised an end to messes with USB-C.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, we got the plug that is correct both ways...

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

That’s a fantastic start!

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Love Apple or hate them they really did try to make it the universal standard way back in 2016.

They released their entire lineup of laptops as USB-C only and were mocked endlessly for it.

If only the IT world had jumped on board at that point we might not have the mess we have today.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They deserve to be mocked. Two ports is a joke when one is required for charging.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Two? Don’t spoil us! Look at this 12" MacBook from early 2015

It has a single USB-C port and literally NOTHING ELSE

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That only works perfectly for 85%+ of Air buyers! :p

Edit: NOT me I got all the ports (phew) yay big MBP

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have an M1 air. One is occupied by the docking station: 2 monitors, mouse, keyboard, webcam, headphones, loudspeakers, microphone occupied and still 1 aux, 2 USB-C, 3 USB-A, MicroSD and a regular SD available;

The other Port on the MBA is occupied by the external SSD for maximum speed

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow you’re definitely really deep into the 15% (I’m making that number up but there must be so few people outside of tech who even use a single external monitor?)

They buy the Mac, they open the Gmail and the Facebooks, they call it a day… I’m thinkin’

Wonder if I can get a realistic estimate on this kind of thing

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It is. I think 80% of people do exactly that, and maybe watch videos.

I only have that Mac because it was used and cheap and had a good battery time. It slowly became my main machine because it’s "good enough for everything"

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I was excited about the one cable future back then.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's complicated?

Every charger says what max power it has, it's pretty simple.

The only issue is that cables don't have to be marked, but until 60W pretty much anything will work.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Agreed, this is all only a problem if for some strange reason you're not willing to look at usb-c charger and cable specs that you buy, I have a brick and charger that do 100w, I only buy cables that take 100w ,all my devices require less then 100, and it works every time. Gosh, so hard. Never mind that if you take that very small step, it does work every time, the usb C connector is very robust and reversible, and now I have truly universal charging.

I like the no charger supplied rule. I can pick my own cool charger.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I’m assuming you label all your cables after you remove them from the package.

[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

My new phone charges at 5W from my old phone's 20W charger without the suddenly required "PD".