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I mean, Democrats have a history of terrible negotiations. I think republicans are correct that if they win the PR war democrats will fold, even if I wish it weren't so.
Historically, republicans take every opportunity to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, and democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
They do, but I'm a little surprised by how well they've positioned themselves on this one. It seems to me that the most likely scenario is that the Republicans will give nothing on principal, the shutdown will go until November when the premiums increase, and the country will see that the Republicans would rather close the government for two months than spare them a doubling or tripling of their healthcare costs.
And all the while Trump trashes the government in an attempt to retaliate, without really understanding that the government provides services that people, his voters included, depend on. I'm not sure, "the Democrats made me do it," will save him with anyone other than his cult members.
I am cautiously optimistic.
Exactly, the last democrat to capitulate to republicans without getting anything in return was John Fetterman, and it's not like he didn't get his reputation damaged for doing so.