This is misleading. For people paying for the IDE nothing changed, data sharing remains an opt-in option. For users of their free licenses data sharing was enabled by default. Still a shitty thing to do especially as it hits a lot of OSS developers but lets criticize that instead of creating memes that are misinformation.

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

They're doing as much of a bad thing as they think they can get away with. I don't feel a particular duty to carefully acknowledge that in some circumstances they feel obligated to do the right thing instead. If they don't like the "misleading" aspects of that, they're free to just do the right thing completely.

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (8 children)

This may be controversial, but trying to collect the data of your free users to offset the costs of the infrastructure/resources needed to support the free users is not a bad thing - especially when you give those users an option to opt-out.

You make it sound like their goal is to do bad things. That's not true. Corporations are not good or evil, they are amoral. They don't care if what they are doing is good or bad - it just matters if they make money.

they're free to just do the right thing completely

What exactly would that entail?

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

For me, the issue isn't as much that they are forcing the data collection (on some/free people, to be clear).

I have issues with the way they are spending their development money, that I give them for the product. I don't care about the AI hype slop, that apparently can't even get good results (which they outright admit in the blogpost), instead of actually making the core features of the editor better. Everyone knows at this point it's a hype bubble that will never be usable, and they are grasping at straws.

I don't want to pay 200$ a year only for them to add a dumb chatbot and data collection into my IDE, or make the code completion dumber and random instead of actually being deterministic. So I don't, canceled my subscription and I'm sticking to the perpetual license while slowly switching to nvim. But I can still make fun of them about it. I have been recommending JetBrains products for most of my life, and they have disappointed me with the direction they are going, so I'll make sure to un-recommend it.

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

That's fair, but that's just a service quality complaint. It doesn't sound to me like you are claiming they are doing "a bad thing", as a moral value judgement.

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