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‘Fear and hopelessness’: one in four professors in the US south are leaving
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As a kid and young adult, I used to say "American" to mean "Citizen of the USA"
Then I started working with multinational companies and a big chunk of my team was in Mexico and other parts of central/south America.
I'm happy for another word for "USA citizen", tell me what to use
American is a term synonymous with US citizen. I have done a fair amount of traveling and I’ve never heard another country’s citizen refer to themselves, read another country’s articles, or heard another country’s news refer to anyone other than the USA as “America” or calling its citizens “American”. I’ve heard “the Americas” though when referring to places in North or South America.
Caveat is that I am a US citizen so it’s possible that it’s said but I’ve never heard it used in any other way.
I had a lot of Central and South American friends growing up (well, "a lot" relative to most people in the Midwest in the 80s). Some of them said their families back in their parents' home countries got upset if they called themselves Americans. I understand that feeling, but my response was, "OK, so what should you call a person from the United States of America?" They didn't have a better idea than just saying American, which is why I think most people around the world just accept the term even if it is a little separatist. There just isn't a better term.
Mexicans and Canadians are also Americans. Hell, every country in South America is American.
US citizen is what is commonly used in circles with lots of exposure outside of the US.
The ones who think "American=US citizen" I've found have rarely, if ever, left their home state....
I’m aware that all of America is the entire north and south. I actually addressed that in my comment. What I’m trying to get you or anyone who is making your point to do is to prove that others refer to themselves as American or that any other media piece calls them American. I will change my mind if you can prove it.
Do Mexican citizens think of themselves as American? Do Canadians? More than likely they will say, or even think that are Canadian or Mexican and not American. Brazilians don’t think of themselves as “American”, neither does a Chilean.
Once again, please provide evidence that anyone else in North or South America refers, or generally thinks, of themselves as American. It just isn’t a thing despite it being geographically true. It doesn’t matter if you like it or not, but “American = US citizen” is universally used by the entire world regardless that it’s technically more encompassing because of geographical naming conventions.
I get the sentiment, wanting to avoid us defaultism and all that. I work with big international groups too, and they refer to us as the Americans, it just seems like a non issue. after all, the official name of our country has the word america in it. does any other country in north or south america?
I realize it's kinda annoyingly P.C./woke
But yeah, I also have taken to referencing "allowlists" and "denylists" instead of "whitelists" and "blacklists". And "worker nodes/manager nodes" instead of "build slave"/"master node"
I think that sometimes enforcing particular speech can act as cultural wedges that distance the people instead of bringing them together. kind of like "latinx". nobody asked for that lol.
don't get me wrong, I'm not some "anti-woke" guy, I just feel like sometimes these feel like misguided attempts to show respect
I hear you and will make a terrible confession -- I used to be a hardcore libertarian and very opposed to "speech police"
I still am 100% opposed to enforcing speech. Don't give someone a fine for saying the N-word, just treat that person as you would anyone who is vulgar or objectionable.
But I do see value in cultural shifts that bend in the direction of greater inclusivity and tolerance. I am with you in that I will absolutely not go along with ones I don't see as authentic or valuable (eg "Latinx", or for example I am a heteronormal male who presents as male. I don't bother adding "he/him" under the photo in my work profile)