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Chromecast / Firestick Self Host Replacement (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by foggenbooty@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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With Chromecasts being discontinued, increase in ads, telemetry, etc I'm wondering if anyone else is going back to old school HTPCs or if they have some other solution to do this in house.

I think the options here are likely:

  1. Rooted streamer (ie Chromecast, firestick)
  2. Android Box
  3. Mini PC

I'm actually most interested in experimenting with #3, a mini PC running KDE Plasma Bigscreen. Most of my self hosted apps can be run in browser windows, and a full desktop (while harder to navigate) is better than the browsers you can get on Android.

What is everyone esle, especially the privacy / de-googled self hosters doing for their media front end?

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[–] wireless_purposely832@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I do not think what I would want as a replacement exists (yet). My main requirements are:

  • Only FOSS software and firmware
  • Similar level of "casting" compatibility/ubiquity as the discontinued Chromecast
  • Easy navigation and/or great UI/UX
  • Can be controlled with a stand alone remote control, phone/tablet/laptop, and remote services like Home Assistant
  • As portable and low powered as the discontinued Chromecast (or no less portable than a small mini-pc)
  • Ability to turn on/off the TV, switch inputs, and control the volume
  • Ability to install apps/plugins to directly on the device (maybe even things like Lutris, Moonlight, or something similar for gaming)
    • Ideally, the apps would be as well maintained and provide similar levels of quality as something like an Android TV or Apple TV
  • (bonus) Ability to store media locally for offline playback

I think the closest I have seen is LibreELEC + Kodi on a RaspberryPi or mini-pc. It's still not quite there for my tastes though. Hopefully the recent Chromecast announcement will lead to more/better alternatives in the coming months!

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your wishlist sounds almost identical to mine. As frustrating as the limitations of streamers are, they are easy to use. HDMI CEC makes single remote setups possible, easy volume changes, input switching, etc. Apps are vetted so they "just work".

As for casting, most platforms support running Miracast or AirPlay receivers. Google is the stickler here that won't let you run a Google Cast receiver (or at least I haven't found one) and also doesn't implement Miracast on Pixel devices. It's such a shame because I vastly prefer casting the URL to the TV and letting it source the content than mirroring my phone all the time.

[–] wireless_purposely832@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed! I am concerned though that even if a viable casting alternative started gaining momentum that Google would essentially prevent it from being widely adopted or incorporated into apps/websites the way that Chromecast is. I think it would have to be created by a large tech or media company and/or be compatible with Chromecast.

Apps are still really frustrating though. If an app exists (big if), I found the apps to either miss key features compared to the corresponding apps on other platforms or the UI/UX was terrible for a TV app.

I could get by if just one of casting or the apps were comparable to more popular alternatives. Having neither makes it very difficult to moved away from those alternatives.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The casting bit is the missing piece for me.

I've built a RasPi with Kodi for our caravan, to use Plex and stream our free-to-air TV here in Australia (using Musk's space innernets). I just miss being able to cast from my phone, for the occasional thing I can't do with a Kodi add-on.

[–] wireless_purposely832@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The thing that makes casting so appealing for me is how ubiquitous it is. It eliminates situations with guests where they would recommend a show/movie only to find out that I can't easily play the content because it's only available on a streaming service that the guest pays for and I do not. As long as the guest brought a device and connected it to my WiFi, it more than likely could be casted without having to install another app and/or sign up for a new service (or have the guest login with their account).

I am becoming less optimistic about it though. I just do not think that the level of ubiquity that Chromecast reached even 10 years ago will be matched with a FOSS alternative. Developers would need to incorporate it into their apps, websites, etc. or it would need to be compatible with existing solutions. I doubt Google will open Chromecast up enough so other options can be fully compatible with it. Additionally, without the backing of a major corporation, I do not see developers taking the time to make their content compatible with another casting option.