EDIT: Some people here might not like what I am saying (which I find surprising considering that Merkel rewarded Putin with Nord Stream II after the invasion of Crimea and Donbas - this is a fact), but this is a very somewhat common view in Ukraine (my use of swearing notwithstanding).

[–] troed@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Many outside of Ukraine don't realize that this war didn't start in 2022 but in 2014.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 months ago

The war started in 1991, when we dared split off from the ~~Russian Empire~~ Soviet Union

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

earlier, putin was testing the waters with crimea, and georgia? '08

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Obama was good for the US but awful to the world for appeasing Putin via his puppet Medvedev. McCain on the other hand was critical of the Russian invasion of Georgia and had strong ties to the opposition in Russia, so he was well-informed on the situation. He wouldn't enable Putin to violate international law time and time again.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

I was actually living in the US when Obama got elected. I got caught up in the Obama hype at the time (I was pretty young).

While I admit my opinion on Obama started leaning negative in 2014, even when living in the US I didn't really understand why there was no real prosecution of major financial groups following the the 2008 great recession.