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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.

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[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

i ~~hard~~ heard people use a smart watch to get nfc payments working

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think what they were trying to say is "I heard people use an Apple watch to get NFC payments working". I'm not confident that answer=Apple (also I have no idea if that would actually help), but it's the best I can come up with.

[–] GuillaumeGus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Garmin would work and isn't iOS or Android based

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Garmin makes shock collars. They're more evil than Google or apple.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I bought a Garmin to accompany my Graphene Pixel, only to discover that my bank doesn't support Garmin Pay.

So, MagSafe wallet attached my phone it is then.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does the PayPal the wallet work?

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

On the phone itself? I don't think it does. The Wallet app doesn't work at all for NFC payments in GrapheneOS, because Google are shit heads.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I just hope the new pebble supports a Sim card soon but I'm not holding my breath. I just want talk, text, and a calendar. Music or a matrix app could be cool too so I can run beeper or similar through it. Other than that I have a tablet or laptop and tbh I'm thinking my next tablet when this one finally dies or I maybe give it away would be a remarkable or other epaper device. My coworkers are starting to think I'm a Luddite but whatever.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 days ago

I'm trying to make my own smart watch as a hobby experiment at the moment, and one of my most important features is NFC payments. It's a nightmare, although I understand why. Currently my plan is to buy another smart watch or smart ring and take the NFC chip from it, which is maddening, but more or less my only option due to contactless payment security.

To do contactless payments, your bank must effectively permit the specific device, otherwise go through GPay or Apple Pay, who in turn just do the permitting themselves. Anything outside of the standard ecosystem just gets overlooked.

The best workaround while avoiding these companies is to find a smart watch or ring that has compatibility with a proxy card, such as Curve. But beyond halving the price of the accessory, this is pretty much an arbitrary decision.