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Afatwa, or religious decree, issued by senior Iranian clerics calling for the assassination of U.S. President Donald Trump has attracted online funding worth tens of millions of dollars, reports say.

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[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't think making him a martyr would be a good idea. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't shed a tear if he passed with the worst agony I can imagine. But making him a martyr would make his agenda immortal.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 23 hours ago

I'm unconvinced they can find a replacement for him that touches the nerve of all those hateful loons at once. Who are they going to have? JD Vance and his eyeliner?

The next election they'd play the "Do it for Him" card, but I can't see them queuing round the block to vote for anyone else. They voted for Donald because even in their politically sheltered lives, they'd heard of him and seen him on TV. As somebody who watched Boris Johnson rise to power, it really is as fucking dumb as that.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Further I think Trump is now the least of our problems with the Trump administration. I fear JD would be even worse.

During the Biden term, the worst people built plans around a trump return to office and the relatively more strong execution this time versus last time is from those around him, not himself so much.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Martyrs tend to be symbols to a cause. Trump and maga don't have much ideology it's more a cult of personality. Those tend to go away when the central figure dies.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand what you mean. But think of Hitler. Obviously his agenda did not die with him. But imagine all the numbnuts if he was assasinated on the peak of his power.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

And to be fair, the easiest way to tell someone doesnt belong in society is when they start spouting hitlers views. A little litmus test, as a treat

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

thats exactly what he did. He killed himself before he could get captured because videos of him in detention and beaten senseless would diminish his legacy. Your example is prove of the other guy being right

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Also, Hitler didn't invent racism or antisemitism. His agenda didn't die with him not because he was such a powerful figure, but because he was harnessing prejudices that have existed before apes even started to walk upright.

Why didn’t that happen with Bobby Kennedy and his aspirations for social justice?

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 19 hours ago

The martyr window would have been more during the campaign leading up to the election. That window is closed now.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Worst take in the thread. Martyr or not his philosophy and his followers is "unbridled self interest" aka "fuck you, I got mine." Martyrdom is antethetical to the cause.

Somebody offing him would set a good example that being a corrupt, fascist leader is not a good way to get riches or a long healthy life.

Am I saying anyone should do something? No.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He needs to take the adolf way out.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, it needs to be supremely conspiracy proof. Too many people will believe it was assassination of it could have possibly been assassination.

He's an old unhealthy man, albeit with the best possible health care. His passing is moderately likely in an average day from health issues.

[–] mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

He also completely seems the type to leave a come-to-jesus meeting with his doctor about how he absolutely has to change his diet and start exercising and still hit the McDonald's drive thru on the way home, so with a little luck, the best possible medical care won't matter nearly as much as it could.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

No doubt, but a cardiac event will have the best possible imaginable intervention. Might not be enough, but if anyone can pull through on the back of medical capability, it's him

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. The people who want to make him a Martyr will make him a Martyr no matter what. The people who know what he has done will understand that him being killed doesn't make any of that better.

See the way all the other Fascists in the world before him were handled.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think you are wrong. But I think an assassination would be the icing on the idiot cake.