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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I said these planes were used to bomb Palestinians. And that's exactly what these mid-air refuelers have been used for, even if they didn't carry any bombs themselves.

Verifiably false. The RAF has not been bombing Gaza. And before you bring it up, no, the RAF has not been refuelling Israeli planes either. The British use an entirely incompatible air-to-air refuelling system. And even if they magically didn’t, they wouldn’t be parking the planes in rural Oxfordshire. And it would be bizarre to do so anyway, as Israel has a whole fleet of tankers of its very own, and they can actually connect to their other planes.

When your arguments are predicated on misinformation, maybe it’s time to stop and think. These planes were nothing to do with Gaza.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Again then, please illuminate us. This is a pretty well organized group. They don't just pick targets randomly. If you have all the answers, illuminate us on why these planes were targeted instead of just whining.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed. If they are a well-organised group with rational people, it would seem odd and uncharacteristically incompetent that they managed to pick literally the most inappropriate target in the entire RAF inventory. Assuming their motives are as they say they are.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I ask you again. Why did they choose this plane? If your answer is, "lol, IDK, I guess they're just dumb." Then you're probably missing something very critical. You haven't even bothered to answer why they chose these planes. You just whine about it.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

You didn’t disappoint. You shifted the goalposts so far they’ve reached the opposite end of the pitch, and I’m now expected to act as Palestine Action’s PR representative. Bravo.

I have no idea why they chose those planes. Maybe they’re imbeciles who can’t look simple things up on Wikipedia. Maybe they’re hotheads who wanted an adrenaline high. Maybe they have an ulterior agenda. Hopefully more will come out during the trial.

I will say though, if we allow a bit of wild speculation, that their US arm is run by Fergie Chambers, a massive fan of Putin and supporter of the invasion of Ukraine. These tankers are utterly pointless in Gaza, but quite vital in the event of a state actor like Russia putting military pressure on Britain. And such an attack would embarrass the RAF, the MoD, the Government and affect public confidence in national security. Russia has operated many times in Britain in recent years, such as the railway sabotage a while ago that caused travel chaos at an embarrassing moment.