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[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Perhaps you responded to the wrong person. Here's what my comment stated and asked:

Speech is being banned. Would you prefer speech supporting/denying genocide be banned? Or, speech protesting genocide be banned?

Violence is already happening. Would you prefer violence be used to support genocide? Or, violence be used against planes in protest of genocide?

Personally, I would prefer vandalism over genocide. Not a particularly tricky moral dilemma for me, weird question to have asked.

Noteably, nothing about Hamas. You saw that right? Tilt at some other windmills.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're just creating false dichotomies left and right and straw-manning all over the place.

Nobody is supporting genocide, that's just you straw-manning the opposition because you don't want to discuss the complexities of the issue.

Violence is happening in a conflict you don't understand. You don't want to even talk about Hamas because it spoils your narrative. You can't to explain how creating violence in the west will result in the release of the hostages Hamas is holding. So you just avoid the subject. In fact your actions might encourage Hamas to hold out longer and that will prolong the suffering of Palestinians. Which is why I say you don't actually care about Palestinians.

You don't want to understand the conflict you claim to care about because you only care about a bullshit internet narrative. Hamas is still holding hostages and the war will continue regardless of what you do. So as much as you try to frame it as genocide vs. vandalism, we all know that's complete bullshit. The vandalism will not impact what happens in this war (regardless of how you want to term it) so it's just people doing vandalism and ruining their lives to impress people on social media.

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Once again. Speech is being banned. Only one of which was protested against in the comment I replied to: not the potential 14 years in prison, the banning from a niche part of a niche website. Not a false dichotomy. Nor is the violence choice a false dichotomy, it's pointing out the ridiculousness of complaining about vandalism under the shadow of genocide.

You want to talk about straw Manning, ctrl+f my comment for Hamas please. If it comes back with zero result you should apologise.

You don’t want to understand the conflict you claim to care about because you only care about a bullshit internet narrative.

The arrogance of this sentence. Genuinely, be ashamed of yourself and apologise.

Israel will continue the genocide no matter what I do, that's correct. But we, as a nation, don't need to support them... Hence the protests.

Edit: as you believe I don't want to understand, I'm linking my usage of the word "genocide" to people you might believe do. Each link is different.

I wonder if any Nazi said "your honour, we had to commit a genocide, the Allies had hostages" at the Nuremberg trials. Probably, a lot of nonsense was tried.