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[–] iii@mander.xyz 12 points 23 hours ago (5 children)
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 62 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This, but private seating in your personal driveway.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, outdoor sitting is a thing only in europe?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Basically yes.

We don't do that in the US anywhere near as much.

Maybe a park will have a table and bench, maybe some certain restaurants in certain parts of certain cities will have them.

But its much, much less common, as our society is designed to be unwalkable, designed for cars and parking lots and air conditioning.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

While I generally agree with the sentiment, the distinction is if there's outside seating it's either a park, or owned by a restaurant. It's not like the blend of the street, sidewalk, businesses you see in Europe

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I agree with your specification.

The kind if mixed use, areas that are walkable, have seating, various kinds of shops... usually only in a few districts of a few fairly large towns or large cities.

There is seating, sometimes, in like... restaurants in basically a strip mall type set up... but they're like islands, surrounded by acres of parking lots.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

Most places where I am in California have outdoor seating options, but it’s more common to have it behind the restaurant in a little courtyard than in front right next to the street.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Where have you been in the US?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

All the way up and down the West Coast, multiple times, over the course of more than 2 decades of being driving age... from Bellingham WA down to LA / San Diego... many, many places in between... also many places all the way out to South Dakota via I 90.

If I gave you a full list, I'd have to rewrite Johnny Cash's "I've been everywhere"... I've actually been to a good number of places in the original lyrics.

[–] Homesnatch@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The towns and cities around me in Massachusetts have quite a bit of restaurant outdoor seating on sections of sidewalk.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I'm in Jersey and it's pretty easy to find places with outdoor seating. Got several in my small town.

I will say that the feel is not quite the same as sitting somewhere in Paris, or Nice, or Aix. They angle all the chairs to face outward, I've noticed, and the tables are so often just tables for two. I'm sure I'm misremembering a bit, but the sentiment still stands, to me. The outdoor seating is almost geared toward sit here and look out, not at your tablemate, and do some people watching. I love it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Anywhere in MA I can rent a studio apt for ~$700 a month?

Probably not lol, I'm on SSDI, but an actual proper city/town sounds great!

[–] Homesnatch@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Not anywhere near here.. Maybe western MA, but that's a completely different vibe.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Fire codes prevent it in NA for a large part. Building have specific occupancy limits, and having booted down seats has exceptions for more space than loose chairs, and businesses usually want the capability of having the largest revenue, so most seats.

Now this also applies outside as those would have to be part of their property. In most cities restaurants and the sort they are built right to their property limits, or they incorporate a patio with set seating.

So if you do see it, it’s not movable furniture, but an actual area. Now along one of our drivable Aves they’ve made compromises, picture below, I don’t hate the solution, but it’s obviously not ideal and hard to accommodate wheelchairs.

They’ve allowed sidewalks to be patios, and let some road space be made into the “sidewalk”, but it’s not a perfect solution, especially when it starts snowing.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

It's a thing on most of the world. But it seems not to be a thing on a large part of the US.

[–] v01dworks@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think it’s a joke about people sitting outside at cafes in Europe?

I’ve heard this is a thing a lot of Americans find weird but I’m American and it’s not weird at all to me, we do literally the same thing here (at least in my home state)

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 11 points 22 hours ago

Except the sidewalks are too tiny so the cafe is allowed to partition a section of the street for their tables

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

It looks like they are at a sidewalk cafe in Europe. The Sangria implies Spain. Tiny tables and chairs and everyone is smoking.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 21 points 22 hours ago
[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

More of a local and graphic village, with small restaurants/bars, drinking sangria or or Aperol.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

That's Paris, I recognize it from the building and the texts are in French. Do a reverse search on Google and I'm pretty sure it's right ehehe

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I also do not get it

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"how USians think Europe may look like"