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‘The vehicle suddenly accelerated with our baby in it’: the terrifying truth about why Tesla’s cars keep crashing (www.theguardian.com)
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The car came to rest more than 70 metres away, on the opposite side of the road, leaving a trail of wreckage. According to witnesses, the Model S burst into flames while still airborne. Several passersby tried to open the doors and rescue the driver, but they couldn’t unlock the car. When they heard explosions and saw flames through the windows, they retreated. Even the firefighters, who arrived 20 minutes later, could do nothing but watch the Tesla burn.

At that moment, Rita Meier was unaware of the crash. She tried calling her husband, but he didn’t pick up. When he still hadn’t returned her call hours later – highly unusual for this devoted father – she attempted to track his car using Tesla’s app. It no longer worked. By the time police officers rang her doorbell late that night, Meier was already bracing for the worst.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Brother" putting words in people's mouth is literally definition of bad faith.

Good thing no one did that?

I was not speaking for terms of "life".

I mean that's pretty clearly the topic at hand, and the most important one.

Lithium fires cause immensely more damage than ICE fires do.

Damage to what? There ain't gonna be anything left of the car either way.

think of a benign situation like a car catch fire under a bridge

That's an extremely obscure and cherry-picked scenario to make your point.

I will have more protection by sheer thermal mass in between me and the firey bit

Thermal mass is not relevant. You don't die from metal contact, you die from smoke inhalation.

The fact that they happen less often doesn't fix the fact that it ends up being a wash all around.

It absolutely is not, and the mere insinuation otherwise leads me to believe you're just being disingenuous.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing no one did that?

You did.

Damage to what? There ain’t gonna be anything left of the car either way.

Factually wrong. ICE cars are much much easier to put out. Often times ICE engine fires can put themselves out. And since they burn slower anyway, it's more likely you can escape the fire in of itself. Eg. if the fire occurs from a runway combustion in the chamber and the engine locks up starving the combustion chamber from oxygen.

That’s an extremely obscure and cherry-picked scenario to make your point.

Not really? There's a lot of bridges on the planet... There's lots of tunnels on the planet. There's lots of infrastructure that is a part of our roadways or are close enough to roadways to be affected. Tunnels are actually an even better problem to discuss. Heavy metal toxicity will stick around a lot longer and cause much more problems than an ICE engine that can actually be doused out 1/10th of the way through the burn.

Thermal mass is not relevant. You don’t die from metal contact, you die from smoke inhalation.

More things between you and the fire = more protection overall... period. And you want to talk about people being disingenuous?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago

Factually wrong.

It's not. And you didn't even bother to dispute it.

Eg. if the fire occurs from a runway combustion in the chamber and the engine locks up starving the combustion chamber from oxygen.

😂🤣😂🤣 what? There's supposed to be fire in the combustion chamber. If it doesn't leave there, it's not "a fire". If it does leave there, the engine locking up does nothing.

More things between you and the fire = more protection overall... period.

If there's something between you and the fire then there's not a threat to life.