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Ok, call me crazy, but hear me out: this is good and we should encourage it.
One fascist party gets all the fascists aligned. Multiple fascist parties split them up. Suddenly their 51% majority is 25% and 26%. We should be fostering the infighting and splitting of the party. We should welcome its own destruction from within.
I'll only believe it when I see it, but this could theoretically be the beginning of the end for a two party system. If done right we could end up with 4 or 5 legitimate parties (including splitting Democrats up and getting a true labor party)
Never gonna have more than two parties as long as we still use "first past the post" voting.
A new "Republican" party would necessarily have to argue for vote reform in order to make gains. We might be able to spin this into a bipartisan issue. We make it their own self interest to introduce ranked choice voting.
Even though two parties is the equilibrium state that's always reached, a new party can replace one of the two if it has massive enough support (the other method is for a contingent faction to take over one of the existing two as we saw with maga). In our system, having it funded by the richest person in the world who also has a large following already is one of the few ways a new party could feasibly get to that level.
I agree. But we need more than just Musk. Like 4 or 5. Break the system.
I'm hoping the Dems split into a proper labor party as well
One of the biggest hurdles would be, since we still have a FPTP system, mutually agreeing when to withdraw and support the other party's candidate in races where the fascist candidate(s) seem poised to win. Especially since the nature of politics means that both sides would be looking to screw each other over... and the Dems have a lot of experience in screwing over political rivals.
I think for a third party to even exist viably, we need ranked choice voting. If Elon wants this party to actually exist, he needs RCV himself. Unless he's just planning to try and consume all of the moderate voters, which is a good bet too based on his ego, unfortunately.
There's 0 way a labor party would take root here with how much of our population falls for moneyed propaganda. Still, more choices is always better when it comes to these political parties.
There is absolutely an appetite for a third way/labor/social democrat party if we had a parliamentary system. I actually bet we'd see the entire country shift "left" under those conditions a lot more than people realize, as giving lefties and neolibs room to operate independently would properly marginalize a lot of Republican politics.
I am not so sure - i think that many many young folk are both more open to it and are disenchanted with the democrat party - and this will continue to grow with the old guard insisting on shooting themselves in the foot by stubbornly resisting Mamdani in new york immediatelt after 3 "Vote Blue No Matter Who" campaigns for the in the last few presidential elections.
You act as if unions are non-existent and Bernie Sanders has no following.... Unlikely? Sure. But impossible? Nope. Literally half the Dem talk since the election has been about how much Dems feel disenfranchised by their own party. Have you been paying any attention?
Over half of the population took a voting action not in their best interest. I know everywhere should be unionized and politicians like Bernie should be the norm, not the "fringe".
But to act like the average voter is rational after this election? Have YOU been paying attention? FFS a quarter of Americans actually think this admin is a good job. A rather sad portion of our population is easily swayed by propaganda and the moment a real workers party comes out? We'll look at how they treated Mamdani, AOC and Bernie like little league.
The fact that you call Bernie "the fringe" and dismiss him, his recent rallys, the Philadelphia sanitation union strike, and so much more shows you just want to be defeatist and spout strawmen. I guess AOC doesn't exist either. So have fun being miserable I guess.
If Bernie is not fringe, could you point out any others who care for the working class as senators outside of AOC? Fringe kind of means minority.
Also, I mentioned AOC so im not sure how my comment made you think she doesn't exist.
Are you okay man?
I can tell you care about getting real leftists in, so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.