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I do not believe you.
Okay, fine. A rare sighting.
There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.
They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.
I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.
Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can't just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.
If you don't then I'd call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That's the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.
Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?
I'm talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.
Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.
Thank you 🫡
I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn't much else of a source back then.
Thank you, kindly. I've heard that manuals where fun to use (sarcasm). Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember those days, but wasn't fortunate enough to own or even be able to witness such gems in real life.
It was fun to learn how things work, and when things worked as planned (finally). It's when they didn't work that got annoying and frustrating, and with assembly language with basically no error codes or any help, it was just...nope, that wasn't right. Maybe followed by cycling the computer off and on because it locked up. Still have my old Mapping the Commodore 64 book on the shelf. Huge resource.
It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.
Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.
Remember when the internet was more than like 5 websites?
Gen Z doesn't.
My favorite thing about StumbleUpon was basically opening me up to a whole Internet without touching Google, and it showed me so many fun things. RIP.
Jumpstick.app comes pretty close though.
I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.
But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.
Aren't they there by default?
Noop, you have to install the man-db package
If you're using arch, you shouldn't need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.
Wait, what? Arch has more comprehensive documentation than just about any other distro.
It does. It's wonderful. But it isn't installed by default. You have to ask for it. Or use the Internet.
I'm literally designing some code now and realized that I used DuckDuckGo to find man pages for system calls... from my Arch laptop. 😑