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This is all fine for city dwellers, but for those of us living rural, 4busses per hrs all day and night would be waste. But a mix perhaps
public transit isnt supposed to be a profit center for companies, it is a public service. making sure transit runs to rural areas would allow rural people to get to town without having to drive.
if there was a transit service that was either equal to or faster than driving and inexpensive to use, there would be no point in driving to town.
that town can have a train station for inter-city transit to allow for longer rides for business or pleasure.
imagine not needing a car or plane, and being able to go on a distant vacation : D
Im not talking about profit, im talking about wasting resources that could be spent better. We still need to upgrade schools, hospitals and keep everyone fed.
My daily commute is 20min drive to train station in a nearby town, and then 50min by train. Now if I could get rid of my car, that would be great. But spending 7.5 billion NOK to service 6k people thats madness and cant be sustainable even in fantasy
A mix is what's needed. Trains between major metropols, busses for smaller places. Less frequent busses for yet smaller places and no busses for the most remote locations.
I have used public transit to several remote locations in Scandinavia, it's surprisingly doable, but it takes planning and often waiting because there's only one bus a day, the school bus (but anyone with a ticket can get a ride).
Still, having the option to travel with public transport and have the opportunity to read my book, doze off or just relax is amazing.
Most people live in cities, trains to rural areas can happen over time.
Ye - fuck’em if they dont live in cities. They can wait for trains or drive their combine harvesters. How sustainable would building rail to cater for 4500 people over 40km?
That's the wrong sentiment and not what I was aiming for. It is not all or nothing.
I live in a rural town, that has two universities near by, thus a thriving downtown area surrounded by forest and trails. There is some density.
In my pipe dream, they would ban vehicles downtown, and we'd have a trolly that goes from the strip mall (Walmart) down the route, through downtown, and to the end where there are three more strip malls. Make the whole area walkable and bikeable. Have a park and ride at either end.
Them my son could ride his bike to school, I wouldn't need to get in a car to go to the grocery store that is a half mile from my house, instead crossing a 50mph road, it would be walksble, and my kid could go to the park on his own.
There are so many places to go within two miles of my mostly old folk trailer park, but all of it currently is inaccessible without a car or crossing basically highways.
New England is an interesting place, we have high (well maybe more) medium density, and rural areas mixed together everywhere. We could do better.
Highspeed rail would be great. Im 2 hours drive from my states largest city, where tons of cool events happen, and I never ever go, because it's a bitch to drive. There is no direct public transport, so I lose out. Even if the train ran twice a day it would be worth it.
England, the UK, have rural areas with trains. Why can't we?
I guess it depends what you call waste. Its providing a service, realistically around here park and ride is pretty popular where people to to edge of the city, park in a carpark with solar cover and ride a bus to town.
traffic still sucks because of other morons who don't use it and drove but it would be worse if everyone drove
The waste would be empty busses running a lot of the times. That power could be used for something else.
I could drive my own car, but that leaves us where we are now. Much rather have autonomous small transport, that i can order. And others can ride along if they order too