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    [โ€“] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Didnโ€™t hear about issues with Office Suites in more than a decade. Microsoft famously manipulated their docs to hamper third-party apps in implementing docx support, thatโ€™s quite a time ago though.

    This is still a thing. Open up MS Office docs in LibreOffice, and more often than not formatting will be messed up.

    Ok for personal use, unacceptable for professional use.

    [โ€“] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Does the same happen in ONLYOFFICE or Collabora? The documents I sometimes interact with might be too "basic" to notice problems. The worst issue I had was LibreOffice Draw freaking out over a PDF, which arguably it wasn't made for anyway.

    Sucks if they still keep protecting their monopoly through software / document manipulation.

    [โ€“] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

    I haven't used Onlyoffice or Collabora so far. I'm only a very light office user and LibreOffice is enough for me, though I've had it often enough that it messes up some document I open. It's not a lot, usually just alignments being wrong or weird gaps between characters, but it's enough that I wouldn't want to use it for example in an important presentation for work if the PC I am presenting on only has MS Office.

    Not something I have to do with any kind of frequency, so not an issue for my use case, but I can totally see that it is a big issue for someone who does that all day every day.

    [โ€“] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Usage has little to do with office. It's the identity controls, easy compliance, built in MDM, SharePoint/OneDrive, etc. Office is the add-on. Identity, RBAC, SAML, laptop fleet deployment out of the box.

    [โ€“] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    RBAC and SAML aren't windows things. Its also only "ootb" in the same way Linux and macos are, you set it up, and it works. And I'd probably argue the apple MDM suite is probably superior at this point anway.

    And fucking SharePoint. Jesus Christ that's a dumpster fire.

    [โ€“] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    You have zero clue.

    EntreID is a SAML/ODIC IdP. You have to run something like Keycloak or purchase Okta.

    Apple doesn't offer true MDM, only tracking and disabling. JAMF, the premire apple MDM has absolutely nothing on InTune.

    SharePoint is a disaster, but far less so than SMB, and it's usually a lack of process more than the tech. But out of the box you have RBAC sharing and access controls with data labeling and scanning every single email and document for PII leakage and prevent it from being savrd much less sent.

    You are clearly a non practitioner and completely ignorant with zero experience with MSP services.

    [โ€“] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Yeah I haven't touched any Windows stuff in a decade to be fair. My experiences with saml and idp is web app based. I was just parroting the apple.line from what I'd heard our own tech ops guys say.

    To be honest. I'm happy being a non practitioner lol and living my little linux life. Our company allows devs to run Linux, Mac or windows. Its probably 90% Mac 10% Linux. I'm sure there's probably a windows machine around somewhere.