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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not even sure what year this is from cause the murder rate in Japan is .23% per 100,000 as of 2022.

Interestingly the United States is at 5.7% per 100,000 as of 2023.

Relevant Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

And as of 2022 it looks like the Christian population of Japan has declined to around .96% of the total population.

[–] MoonMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago) (1 children)

As the other guy mentioned, 0.23% per 100,000 doesn't make sense. That's like saying 0.23 murders per 100 (cent) per 100,000. One of those per Xs is redundant.

The Wikipedia page linked says Japan has a murder rate of 0.233 per 100,000 residents. If this made sense as a percent, it would mean a percentage of 0.000233%. But this statistic wouldnt work as a since a "percentage" implies a fraction of a whole, for example 50% of a population is born male.

The original statistic under discussion says that there are "X number of murder cases per 100,000 people living in country", rather than "Y% of the country's population is murder victims", which wouldn't make sense anyway since the dead aren't part of the population; i.e. you wouldn't see a statistic like "20% of the population is dead" but rather "20% of the population died", and "90% of the deaths were by murder" rather than "18% of the population is murder victims".

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Edit: formatting

Edit: 0.233 murders per 100,000 residents (in 2022) = 126,146,099 (pop of Japan as per the 2020 census) x 0.233 ÷ 100,000 = 294 murders total. The wiki page says the actual count is 289, so the error is probably due the drop in population since the 2020 census.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Uh, try simple math?

(100,000 x .23)÷100 = 230

230 murders per 100,000 people.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

But its not 230 murders per 100,000. It's 289 murders total, for the entire population that year.
0.233 out of 100,000 were murdered.
That's 0.000233% of 100,000 people.

[–] MoonMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

The same table on the Wiki page says that the actual count was 289 murders in 2022. Japan had a population of over 126 million in 2020. If we used your formula, that would mean there were over 289,000 murders in Japan between 2021 and 2022. See below:

230 per 100,000 = 126,146,099 x 230 ÷ 100,000 = 290,136 murders total.

Whereas, 0.233 per 100,000 = 126,146,099 x 0.233 ÷ 100,000 = 294 murders total.

2+2=4, simple maths. But 290k murders per year would explain the population drop, lol.