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See, this is one of the things that drive me batty with so much new hardware.
With an old car, if this happened you'd get warnings. If a door is open your car would warn you and beep occasionally. It was still an entirely functional car.
But now... cars won't warn you, they stop you. It doesn't even feel like my car at that point.
Because its not your car just like its not your phone, software, and music.
Great build quality for a six figure car
But if you get in an accident and somehow blame the manufacturer then they could be liable, better to just stop you then risk lawsuits.
The US lawsuit happy culture lead to this imo
Maybe other car companies will go to this but, well, they arent doing this right now. So it would seem that the every other car company did the calculus and they are not concerned about lawsuit risks in this regard.
Another stooge who's swallowed the corporate propaganda of frivolous lawsuits.
What? It's a real thing, sometimes it's bullshit on the manufacturer's side, sometimes it's bullshit by the person suing. Regardless a lot of lawsuits means companies try to force as much of the risk onto consumers instead. That's not corporate propaganda, it's understandable capitalist bullshit
In older cars you would die from the smallest crashes now they got all these pesky air bags ugh they are the worst
Airbags can deploy (erroneously or not) and the car can still drive.
If a car refuses to move because its airbags have been deployed (or think they've been deployed) then you could be stranded in the middle of nowhere for no other reason than a single part of your car is unhappy.
Your frunk can be bodged shut with duct tape.
The entire point of your car is to move from point A to point B. Disabling that feature should only happen due to physics, not a minor problem.
Airbag deploying means the car is totalled usually. It is a catastrophic safety feature that damages everything around. First, you have the airbags out, which interferes with driving. So you'd need to cut them out before continuing. Second, airbags don't usually pop out of nowhere. 95% of the time, the damage is severe enough that the vehicle shouldn't drive anymore before major fixes are done. Seatbelts are gone too, since they locked up during the crash and they are stretched / strained enough to not be usable anymore. Third, airbags explode when they are activated, which disorients you as the passenger, makes it hard to see what's going on. Fourth, many cars automatically disconnect the fuel pump, battery cables to prevent adding more fuel / sparks to a crash already.
Honestly, airbags popping aren't a "non issue" like you try to make it seem. Call a tow truck.
Wanting to drive with a broken frunk latch = not being able to appreciate the improved quality of safety.
I mean, imagine you ignore the warning, drive on a highway and the hood pops up on you out of nowhere. Just because you couldn't get it to open doesn't mean it won't unjam itself at highway speeds once air gets under it and turns it into a sail. Either blinding you entirely, or ripping off the hinges, flying off and hitting someone else's windshield - blinding them, or even killing (imagine a motorcycle getting hit by it). I think the hate isn't justified, maybe other than the fact that they weren't able to fix it themselves. This sensor should be standard issue on all cars, since this absolutely is an issue with safety.
Imagine if you're handy yourself, and you decide to either strap it down or make a latch of some sort, and it's fixed in place. Or even just replace the latch, but it's the sensor that's faulty. But you can't drive it anymore. Instead you have to take it to the dealership and pay out the wazoo to get it fixed.
Yes safety standards are important. People are dumb and would ignore a warning. However, you should be able to disable the speed limiter.
Edit: also you're acting like you're refusing my point, but that's not what I'm saying. You can feel upset about overbearing safety systems and still appreciate safety. It's like saying "man, that's a real mean dog" and someone coming back at me saying "Excuse me, dogs are great animals. Do you think the blind shouldnt be able to have eye seeing dogs??"
Imagine you think you are handy and it flies off and hits someone or kills them, or blind you.
If you are handy, you can replace the sensor too. It's not a good argument to "the latch is broken and someone wants to drive it anyway". You can fix both. Also you can drive it at 15 mph. This absolutely is a huge safety issue that requires a fix, there is no room for negotiations and "maybe I do this instead, hmm???" - either fix it or deal with it going slow.
A latch is like two bolts and 20 minutes. A sensor is about 4 hours of trying to figure out why the fuck it isn't working just to figure out that you need to also replace the fuses and a relay thats for some reason behind the console.
I'm at a lost for words over how extremist you're being at the moment. The frunk isn't going to fly off, it may fly up and shatter the windshield, but it won't fly off. I'm not even entirely sure it would fly up with it being entirely stainless steel.
And even if it does, it would probably be the least dangerous thing on the road. If you want to be extremist, every car should have a breathalyzer, eye sensors to make sure you're not on your phone or falling asleep, and you should have to renew your license with a driven test every other year.
In fact, cars shoudnt even exist. At any point, someone could drive into a crowd and there's no limitors to prevent that.
Great slippery slope, going to fallacies and trying to excuse a very dangerous thing on the road.
It is extremely dangerous to drive with an unlatched hood / frunk. End of story. No amount of negotiation from your side changes that. The sensor absolutely has its place and you have to look for edgecases where it still doesn't make sense to not have the sensor.