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ChatGPT 'got absolutely wrecked' by Atari 2600 in beginner's chess match — OpenAI's newest model bamboozled by 1970s logic (www.tomshardware.com)
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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Gotham chess has a video of making chatgpt play chess against stockfish. Spoiler: chatgpt does not do well. It plays okay for a few moves but then the moment it gets in trouble it straight up cheats. Telling it to follow the rules of chess doesn't help.

This sort of gets to the heart of LLM-based "AI". That one example to me really shows that there's no actual reasoning happening inside. It's producing answers that statistically look like answers that might be given based on that input.

For some things it even works. But calling this intelligence is dubious at best.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because it doesn't have any understanding of the rules of chess or even an internal model of the game state, it just has the text of chess games in its training data and can reproduce the notation, but nothing to prevent it from making illegal moves, trying to move or capture pieces that don't exist, incorrectly declaring check/checkmate, or any number of nonsensical things.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Hallucinating 100% of the time 👌

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ChatGPT versus Deepseek is hilarious. They both cheat like crazy and then one side jedi mind tricks the winner into losing.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

So they are both masters of troll chess then?

See: King of the Bridge