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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can't have an MLK without a Malcom X. MLKs ways were only accepted because the alternative was the Black Panthers. Yes, we need the majority of people to be peacefully protesting, but we also cannot let the state achieve a monopoly on violence.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This dude is no Malcolm X. You also need people to be smart, and not fall for pretty obvious bait.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I never claimed anyone is a modern day Malcom X. What I claimed is that the state cannot achieve a monopoly on violence. Like any monopoly, without competition or regulation there is no reason to self moderate.

We need to relearn how to organize a large number of peaceful protesters to have self constraint. But we also need to relearn how a small organized and isolated group of people who can compete with state sponsored aggression can reshape the political landscape.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been arguing the same thing about organizing, except this is not the American revolution of the 1700s.

Let's be realistic about what happens next when you encourage people to take up arms and go on a suicide mission right now.

Trump is trying to instigate a Civil War. He wants further escalation, not de-escalation. This does not end with the National Guard and Marines he has already sent to LA peacefully retreating because they face aggression from locals.

The next step will be an expansion of military takeover, and National Guard from red states being used to invade blue states

Newsome is making the right call here. Threatening to withhold taxes is probably one of the smartest things any blue territory/jurisdiction can do to protect themselves and fight back right now. California is the first, but they definitely won't be the last. We need America to unite against a coup being led by the Neoconfederates in the White House.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 8 months ago

I've been arguing the same thing about organizing, except this is not the American revolution of the 1700s.

The civil rights movement was only 50 years ago and is a much better analog than conflating modern resistance movements with the 18th century.

Let's be realistic about what happens next when you encourage people to take up arms and go on a suicide mission right now.

As I already stated, the general public should present themselves at most as publicly engaging in civil disobedience. However, civil disobedience does not get the job done by itself, not when the leader of the country is a fascist who doesn't care about civility in the first place.

History has shown time and time again that the only thing that stops fascist is physical resistance. Fulfilling the demands of peaceful protesters needs to be juxtaposed as a compromise to avoid civil unrest, not the only form of resistance.

Fascist manufacture escalation, they don't instigate it. Even if there were absolutely no violence happening, they would just see that as an invitation.

Threatening to withhold taxes is probably one of the smartest things any blue territory/jurisdiction can do to protect themselves and fight back right now.

Lol, that is a literal attack on the very idea of Federalism. This is more likely to escalate a violent response than a localized violent protest ever could. If there is any resistance to trump at the federal judicial level, then actually challenging the very idea of Federalism would legally validate a federal response more so than anything since the civil war.

We've dealt with violent protest in the past at the State level several times throughout history, no state has challenged the idea of federal power at that level since the rebellion.

A state withholding funding is fucking with the bag, it can be perceived as an act of rebellion and an attack on Congress who constitutionally governs the power of the purse.

We need America to unite against a coup being led by the Neoconfederates in the White House.

Fascist do not care about electorialism once they've seized the power of the pulpit. They only care about maintaining that power at whatever cost. The cat is out of the bag, the Reichstag is burning, civility is no longer on the menu.

These aren't neo confederates, they are neonazi. If you don't understand the difference, then you don't know enough about politics to advise anyone.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago