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U.S. President Donald Trump, in an interview with NBC News on Saturday, said there would be "serious consequences" if billionaire Elon Musk funds Democratic Party candidates to run against Republicans who vote for Trump's sweeping tax-cut bill.

Trump declined to say what those consequences would be in the phone interview, and went on to add that he had not had discussions about whether to investigate Musk.

Asked if he thought his relationship with the Tesla and SpaceX CEO was over, Trump said, "I would assume so, yeah."

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So it's trivial for Musk to decide who you vote for, then. You don't care about the candidate's position, just whose "team" he's on.

It's kind of pathetic watching Americans continue sabotaging their chances of getting out of authoritarian control even now. What will it take to end that purity spiral?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If you think voting for a guys who work for Nazis is how you get out of authoritarian control I don't know what to tell you. Also musk isn't the one deciding that there. The candidates are. If they show me that they're Nazi sympathizers I'm not going to vote for them. If you find that to be a weird Line in the Sand for somebody then I find that really weird about you.

I'll say it again my Line in the Sand is nazis. If you think that's a purity test fine I'm comfortable with that. That's one that I'm proud to have.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'll say it again my Line in the Sand is nazis.

Right. Mine too. And supporting the Republican candidate in the upcoming elections means you're supporting the nazi candidate.

The US is a two party system. If you don't vote for one, you're tacitly supporting the other. That's how Trump got into power. I have no sympathy for people who continue to perpetuate his power.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's clearly not your line since you are sitting here saying you should vote for nazis.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You think Democrats are nazis?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If they're taking money and orders from Elon Musk yes. That's what I'm saying. I said it a number of times even.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The "and orders" part is something you're assuming.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Buddy if you're going to sit here and pretend that that's not how political donations work I don't have any time for you.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And you're worth talking to? You're fine with handing a vote to a Republican based on nothing other than where the funding for the Democrat's campaign came from.

As I pointed out above, the US is a two-party system. You pick one or you pick the other. You're picking the Republicans. Good luck with that.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You’re fine with handing a vote to a Republican

You're advocating for voting for people whose loyalties lie with nazis.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

There is and will never be any clean way to take money from Nazis. We call those people who do Nazis. If you don't have any morals about saying no to Nazis that's your choice some of us do. There's no political election where you should choose between two Nazis. Never. There is no political calculation that makes it okay ever. Cuz again they are Nazis. That's what you're endorsing. You're saying choose the lesser of two Nazis (hint no such thing). There's the line of the sand enjoy being on the wrong side.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And so Musk can instantly and trivially get you to drop your support for any Democrat he wants to. He decides who you vote for.

You're saying choose the lesser of two Nazis.

When you have only two choices, then yes choose the lesser Nazi. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. You think it's appropriate to chose the greater Nazi?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

At least you're honest about wanting two nazi parties.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We already talked about this before but I guess you missed it so I'll say it again. They choose to take the money. If they're not Nazis they would say no I'm not taking Elon Musk money he's a Nazi. If they take it then they're Nazis so no he's not making the choice they are. I'm believing them when they tell me they're a Nazi.

Also since you cut it out of your quote there I'll say again, there's no such thing as the Lesser Nazi. There's just Nazis. You're arguing for voting for Nazis. Literally you've done it multiple times now. I won't do that. I don't care that you think there are good Nazis out there I don't fucking believe that. The only good Nazi is a Dead Nazi.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They can choose to take the money and not do whatever it is Musk is telling them to do.

This is the absolute black-and-white with-us-or-against-us purity spiral that I've been criticizing this whole thread. If you're going to refuse to support a Democrat the moment he strays slightly from your perfect ideal, even by association rather than by any actual action, then you're useless when it comes to helping America's political disaster. You just keep screaming "Nazi, nazi, nazi!" And provide no actual benefit.

This discussion well and truly Godwinned.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If someone says hey I'm taking Nazi money but it's not like I'm going to do what they want I'm just taking it you'd be a moron to believe them. I mean truly come on. You shouldn't be that naive about literally any political donation but Nazis? Really?

Earlier you said that's your Line in the Sand too. Clearly it's not. But what do you think Line in the Sand means if not black and white. If Nazis can't be black and white I don't know what your morals are. I truly don't understand. If you can't say hey Nazis suck fuck all Nazis that's weird man and you should adjust the way you look at the world. If you think not being a Nazi is too much to ask of my elected officials that's fucking weird. If that bar is too high for you I don't know what to tell you.

As for what the benefit is? There would be less Nazis. That's a benefit for everybody except Nazis. Sorry that bums you out.

( also you don't get the bitch about Godwin's law when the literal topic was a Nazi)

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Money cannot be a Nazi. Only people can be Nazis.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Money cannot be a Nazi.

It's just gold. Who cares whose teeth it's from?

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Haha! Slam dunk!