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    screen shot of memory usage by app, showing Firefox using over 18GB of RAM

    I also don't understand why every chat app needs 1GB of RAM to itself.

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    [–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It absolutely will try, it just gets killed by the oom reaper.

    [–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Unless you have the vm.overcommit_memory sysctl set to 2, and your overcommit is set to less than your system memory.

    Then, when an application requests more memory than you have available, it will just get an error instead of needing to be killed by OOM when it attempts to use the memory at a later time.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    Isn't there a trade off though?

    [–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

    Yes. Memory allocated, but not written to, still counts toward your limit, unlike in overcommit modes 0 or 1.

    The default is to hope that not enough applications on the system cash out on their memory and force the system OOM. You get more efficient use of memory, but I don't like this approach.

    And as a bonus, if you use overcommit 2, you get access to vm.admin_reserve_kbytes which allows you to reserve memory only for admin users. Quite nice.

    [–] devfuuu@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I've used Linux for years and never in my life have I seen anything crash or close because of a oom killer. It's myth for me that it exists. Me looking at my firefox occupying 6GB of the 8GB ram and opening intellij so it becomes full and swap is on 3GB.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

    It only happens when you run out of swap and ram

    [–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Its not a myth at all. If a software uses too much RAM it has to be killed because otherwise the OS crashes. You can read more about it here: https://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer

    Here is the source code: https://codebrowser.dev/linux/linux/mm/oom_kill.c.html

    [–] nixigaj@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    It is just not very tuned for desktop as it will lock up the system and empty every single type of buffer in the kernel before it is actually invoked.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

    It depends on the app. For some apps it just kills the app and everything is happy

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    My Firefox has a couple hundred tabs open, one of which had a memory leak. It was getting killed by the OOM killer (on my 64GB of RAM system!) about twice a day. It's not doing it anymore, though; I must've closed the correct tab.

    [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

    Doesn't Firefox offload unused tabs by now?