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Christ empowered his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and tend to the sick. For some reason American Christians have decided that these explicit dictates should he ignored, much like the reminder that it is not their role to judge, so that they can instead focus on bigotry.
That's pretty much the entire history of Christianity.
It's really not.
The corrupt nature of the Church as an institution exists to take advantage of the naive humanitarianism of its fellowship.
People, by and large, do want to help their neighbors and provide for the young and the elderly. Modern prosperity gospel Christianity and historical Catholicism/Protestantism hasn't change human nature. People in the church still pursue benevolent goals. It only pollutes human perception and education, by misallocating resources intended to improve society.
I think they're using "Christianity" to refer to the institution.
No, it isn’t. For most of history most Christians were taking care of those around them. It is with industrialism and Calvinism that we see people move away from this.
The infuriating part is a different beared Jewish guy tried to put into practice these ideals and the USA fought to stop it everywhere.
You need to brush up on your history then. The church's history is largely violently forcing others to convert and using the Bible to persecute those they don't like.
That is entirely unrelated to the fact that most Christian communities did in fact try to clothe, feed and tend those that needed it. Most humans will try to ease the suffering of those they know in their communities if they can because most aren’t so cold hearted
I dont understand why your down voted.
Christian institutions = \ = christian followers.
a few hundred years ago homeless people and veteran carried tokens that enabled them to be given free food and help at churches.
Paster Damian died of leprosy after 11 years of helping others with the sickness, tending their wounds, sharing food and digging graves. He kept doing so while he was sick.
The catholic church as an institution absolutely is evil but that does not automatically make believers or individual priests so.
History is Littered with proof of this. Science denying is not the answer to religious bigotry.
The fact is for most of history you wouldnt have left your county so you actually were more inclined to be closer with people you might not have loved because of expediency. You aren’t going to chow down on seconds if you know your neighbor is starving unless you are a psychopath and most humans aren’t.
No, because the point that all the bigots are missing is that religious people are generally no different than other people. If you see a starving kid you aren't going tosit in front of them chowing down. You will, presuming you aren't on the ASPD spectrum or starving yourself, feed that kid.
Most humans did this . Most humans do this. You have to raise them to believe helping others is wrong and that enters Protestant Christianity through Calvinism.
No, you have just completely misinterpreted my comment a second time
No, I know what I wrote. Im not sure why or how you could think otherwise.
We should stop here.
Your statements don't align with reality, which isn't surprising because religion doesn't align with reality.
Are you so prejudiced that ypu think most people would not give food to their neighbors if they were starving? Are the people around you that horrible?
I'm talking about Christians, not most people.
So then yes you are either that bigoted or the people around you are abnormally indescent. Most people won't let people they kind of know starve. It has nothing to do with faith. The evangelicals who buy into the prosperity gospel do this because of the aforementioned Calvinism.
Not at all. I'm not saying there's not good Christians; I'm saying they're the minority and aren't representative of the religion as a whole.
People have been using religion as a justification for hate, pain, and misery since religion was invented, and Christianity isn't any different. I'm not sure why you think this is a recent change.
Plus, only helping people you know or kinda know doesn't make you a good Christian. The majority of people, Christian or not, have no problem ignoring the needy if helping them would inconvenience them in any way.
So yes you are that bigoted. That's something for you to work on.
Yes what relevance does that have to the willingness of people to take care of their neighbors?
You keep trying to steer this to stuff I am not talking about at all, why?
So you are incapable of holding a normal discussion then. Why are you here?
You mean where muslim invaders were cast out of Europe ?
Expecting Christianity to base their actions on Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to base their actions on the Quik Bunny.
Every movement in history has hypocrites that follow it, and give the movement a bad name. Lumping "American Christians" together and then judging them based on the worst people who adopt that title is creating a straw man.
All American Christians that I know try and follow what you pointed out in your first sentence.
The statement on judging however is a bit misguided, Jesus didn't say to never judge, but to be careful to avoid hypocrisy and to judge with love.
At this point a substantial portion of self identified Christians in America are supporting some ideologies and programs that are the opposite if Christ’s teachings. It isn’t a small part. It might even be close to the majority.
Yeah, that's true and it's very upsetting that so many hypocrites would exist within the wider church. I'd argue that someone that doesn't follow the teachings of Christ isn't a Christian at all since that's literally what the word means.
The catch is for many of these their Churches are telling them thiscis the message of Christ