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Tankies always have such great takes on international affairs (lemmy.world)

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[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Tell me what is wrong with Hasan? I don't follow him much but he's seemed pretty good. Maybe it's changed since then because I don't see those examples, but I found the "CCP" tabloid, the article is summarizing the 2025 Democracy Perception Index by Nira Data which has been cited in articles by Politico, Newsweek and is widely trusted.

DPI is an annual poll conducted in joint with the Alliance of Democracies Foundation, which was founded by Anders Rasmussen, former Prime Minister of Denmark and NATO secretary general.

It has some quotes from a Chinese professor but I don't see anything disagreeable with the article.

Over the past few months, the US has adopted beggar-thy-neighbor policies, protectionism, unilateralism, and a series of bullying practices in its foreign policy, which are both incomprehensible and unacceptable, Li said, as a result, the US' image and influence in global affairs have declined.

Why wouldn't Putin worry NATO, Russia has nuclear weapons and is fighting a brutal war against a western backed nation, I don't see that example but what does that have to do with tankies?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Tell me what is wrong with Hasan?

... I hope this is genuine ignorance, because Hasan is a dedicated CCP bootlicker and an open accelerationist who has said that America 'deserved' 9/11. Not coincidentally, also common views amongst Hexbears.

Why wouldn’t Putin worry NATO, Russia has nuclear weapons and is fighting a brutal war against a western backed nation, I don’t see that example but what does that have to do with tankies?

Tankies constantly echo whatever "RUSSIA STRONK, WEST SCARED AND WEAK" shite they can get their hands on. Do I have to quote Hexbear comments on the Ukrainian War next?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think people killed on 9/11 deserved it, and that's not what they are saying, the materialist understanding of 9/11 is that it was an inevitable response after the decades of US and US-backed atrocities, it was specifically in response to:

al-Qaeda's motives for the attacks included Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, condoning the 1982 massacres in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[5][6][7] US support of Israel,[8][9] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_the_September_11_attacks

If you wage war across the world don't you think someone will try to respond? US was the aggressor and had aided in the killing of thousands of civilians in numerous theatres, this could be phrased if you are being polemic as "the US deserved it." Do you believe the US is the righteous world police, protecting democracy?

And a nonbiased analysis will show that Russia is not about to collapse and is not necessarily losing the war at the moment. People such as on hexbear point out that Western media has been saying that Russia is losing badly constantly since the start of the invasion, why hasn't Ukraine been able to retake more territory then? Russia isn't necessarily winning either, it's a stalemate, even Ukrainian sources will say this. If the west isn't worried, why don't they do more to help Ukraine? If they were sure of victory they would push to end it more quickly militarily, instead of working on negotiations now.

Please do, give me quotes from hexbear users, that's what I've been asking for all along. I want to see directly what you think 'tankie discourse ' is.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you wage war across the world don’t you think someone will try to respond? US was the aggressor and had aided in the killing of thousands of civilians in numerous theatres, this could be phrased if you are being polemic as “the US deserved it.” Do you believe the US is the righteous world police, protecting democracy?

There's a vast gulf between "the US is the righteous world police" and "the US deserved 9/11"; not to mention the extremely questionable nature of many of the stated motives for the attack. At the core, Bin Laden was a religious fanatic whose entire anti-American crusade was kicked off by American troops defending the Saudis in the First Gulf War.

Please do, give me quotes from hexbear users, that’s what I’ve been asking for all along. I want to see directly what you think 'tankie discourse ’ is.

Oh, if we're not restricted to the front page (as though I used the front page for dramatic purposes, I kept to it because I expected that your immediate response was a request for me to prove that particular assertion), then it becomes trivial.

https://hexbear.net/post/702139/4015993

https://hexbear.net/post/230233/2941599

https://hexbear.net/post/3095249/5216662

https://hexbear.net/post/4797964/6115462

https://hexbear.net/post/3827064/5586495

https://hexbear.net/post/2744307/5004107

https://hexbear.net/post/4648058/6082033

https://hexbear.net/post/1808834/4606588

https://hexbear.net/post/4472147/5949751

I can go back further to grab "Russia will never invade!" stuff if you want me to prove the first two parts of the meme as well. I can also do this for any other meme I've posted here.