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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Rich people are richer than ever though, so at least the red party delivered.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 27 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I would point out that, objectively, Clinton did achieve a budget surplus, and Kennedy's program eventually got us to the moon (though he, obviously, didn't live to see it). Say what you will about the ACA. No matter what standard you take, that's at least a 2/3rds success rate for the blue party by your measure.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

ACA was a huge success in the millions of additional people with healthcare. This saved lives. Lots of lives.

The possibility of Universal Healthcare was dropped: this was not a goal of ACA. Most of us expected a follow up to ACA that would do that, but too many people voted for politicians fighting against it. Despite ACA being overwhelmingly popular, it hurt Dems in elections and they really haven’t had an opportunity to do much since

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Which let’s be real - the only reason there was opposition to the ACA was because Obama did it. It was basically RomneyCare. Most people (on the right) opposed to the ACA didn’t actually know why they didn’t like it - it was done by that uppity guy who wore a mustard suit.

My little brother has a genetic disorder - already had multiple, intensive surgeries by his tenth birthday. He would have capped out his lifetime insurance payouts around the time the ACA passed. He would probably not be able to get any form of insurance now because of his preexisting conditions, if not for the ACA.

The ACA’s problem was that it did not have a public option. We aren’t operating under a free market - insurance companies are colluding with each other and hospitals. There is no actual competition. Even if universal healthcare wasn’t a moral imperative (how the fuck do you keep up your insurance when you’re sick? when the company you work for fires you because you miss too much work?), it’s also not even being run by the rules of the “free market.”

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 11 hours ago

If I remember correctly a survey of people was done asking how they felt about "the ACA" and how they felt about "Obamacare." They approved of the ACA and HATED Obamacare...

Fucking propaganda man...

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The ACA gave me affordable healthcare when I was young and poor and had none.

Republicans have never even come close to doing something like that for me. Quite the opposite actually.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

Oh, I agree with you. However, I wasn't going to assume that the person to whom I was replying would agree.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I would point out that, objectively, Clinton did achieve a budget surplus,

That's not even a worthwhile goal. The state can print money for whatever it wants. Clinton didn't change any of that. The state still wastes endless resources on the MIC, imperialism, etc. while many people lack basic human needs: food, shelter, healthcare, livable environment, etc.

Zero is a meaningless goal that changed absolutely nothing, especially long term.