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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Met any anti-vax nurses? I guarantee you that you could find some medical professionals who would do it.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know what's more appalling, the number of antivax nurses or the number of people who reference their antivax nurse friends as authoritative sources. They are not doctors. They are not pathologisists. They are not immunologists, biologists, chemists, neurologists, or any other relevant ologists you can think of.

I don't trust the Jiffy Lube oil change tech to diagnose my car's power loss, but I guarantee they'll have some anecdotal ideas because they "hear" about things all the time. I don't trust an experienced mechanic to give a proper statement on reliability, either, because a mechanic will only see cars when they're broken, biasing the sample.

So how do nurses become the voice of fact on this? I mean, I know why. It's confirmation bias. This is more me screaming into the void, fuckin why?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Oh, I hear ya. It's super frustrating. It's often presented as as weird sort of "speaking truth to power" as well. "Doctors don't know anything - my nurse friend says ...."

I think a whole lot of it comes from the fact that doctors just don't spend as much time with patients as nurses do. Nurses build a relationship with people and the doctor just swoops in for a few minutes here and there.

People trust a friend over an authority nine times out of ten. :-(

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

Anti-vax people don't generally hold that stance because they're evil. They're misinformed. Doctor willing to sedate a person whose about to get murdered and one that's sceptical about vaccines is not equivalent.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know for sure if they're all anti-vax, but there are definitely some problems with the kinds of medical professionals prisons often hire

(I could swear I saw a ProPublica article within the last month about how state prison systems all across the country hire doctors who got disciplined or lost their licenses in other states but I can't seem to find it now, so here are some slightly older articles or ones that focus on specific states, but this is definitely still a current problem and not one that just happens in one state or another)

"Many state hospital, prison doctors without medical licenses" (arc)

"Disgraced doctors, unlicensed officials: Prisons face criticism over health care" (arc)

"Nearly one-third of doctors working in Wisconsin's prisons have been censured" (arc)

"When Prison Nurses Must Choose Between Guards & Patients: In dozens of cases, medical personnel in NY prisons were accused of covering up beatings — some under pressure — and rarely faced punishment." (arc)

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Oof, yeah that tracks.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anti-vaxxers legitimately believe that vaccines do harm. I don't think that's comparable.

[–] Crewman@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

There's way too many that get vaccinations, then turn around and spout anti-vax nonsense for the grift. Going to medical school does not just make you a pood person.