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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29061644

We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!

Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover

We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We have a basic rule that the headline must match the article. Current headline reads:

"Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson"

I'll give you a fair shot to correct it before just removing it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Done. Only because I respect you.

It doesn’t make sense that rule. But you’ll disagree anyway and there’s never a chance of winning a mod argument anyway.

The article headline you want is pointless and meaningless to the 99% of the world who visits this.

Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson

I added context and a little bit of juice to it so it would make for a better headline for non-Australians. Did I add some anti Trump sentiment? Sure. Did that misconstrue the content of the article? No.

I understand the current rule makes it easy to mod the place, but it also means you don’t let the OP add context for Lemmy. The rule should be: you can’t misconstrue the content of the article.

Anyway, I appreciate all you mods do and I respect the rules that are in place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks @[email protected] ! I know the rules are a pain, but really it helps prevent shitposting. Imagine coming into a community and just seeing variations on "xxx is a dumbass/shithead/etc. etc." all the way down. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

All good. Thanks for all you do around here!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm curious what your headline orginally was

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can see it in the crosspost

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Ty! Makes a bit more sense as it does give context. The 'booting to the curb' was a bit editorialized. But if like me, you have no idea who Dutton and Dickson are it's a lot clearer.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree.

Not modifying headings is a fairly universal rule.

Making it "easier to mod" is an understatement. If you let people "adapt titles to be more suitable for lemmy" or whatever you did, then you'll spend all day having arguments about what adoptions are appropriate. It's unworkable with volunteer mods.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's so pathetic that the top comment chain is discussing this pedantic issue instead of the actual article. Thank god for this moderation or my experience may have been slightly degraded.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's a pretty fundamental aspect of content aggregators. If posters editorialise the articles they post it becomes an echochamber for a very confined range of opinions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint. I posted an article from the Australian national broadcaster. They have their flaws but they aint breitbart.

While I sensationalised the title and added my 2 cents in the original OP I cross posted to this community, I linked to a nice source and created a more world context friendly title, yet far from disingenuous click bait.

The upvotes and the comments are largely based on that.

What this rule is currently accomplishing:

  • people will just post sensationalist sources with clickbaity titles and questionable journalism
  • or people will create sensationalist titles for neutral higher quality sources and then the top comment is always going to be about this level of virtue signalling.

What’s the point of a community if these are the rules? You’re asking for bad sources and at best or you’re just a comment section provider for legacy media.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago

Why has everyone started saying "counterpoint" all of a sudden. Every comment is a counterpoint.

Counterpoint. Hopefully people aren't idiots that upvote sensational headlines.

Counterpoint. Everything I already said.

Counterpoint. You could make your own community where people sensationalise headlines.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Just remove it.

People who do this shit are actively making this place worse.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol "the people actually making content are the problem" y'all are fucking clowns.

Can we just be loose with the moderation while the "top" posts don't even get 2k upvotes.

It gave lemmy content, it led to engaging discussions, who tf cares if the title is bad.

Jesus Christ I don't understand this mentality

You've made 3 posts in 2 years, op contributed to more fediverse in a day than you did in two years.

You really want to make this place better, then quit your bitchin or contribute more and your bitchin will be more understandable

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Editorialized titles distract from the content. There’s enough crazy ass shit happening globally that the added sensationalism isn’t necessary.

Either way, maybe calm down a bit lmao.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

At your service.

That’s what I thought about you when I read your message.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Man fuck em, thank you for adding to the fediverse OP! You should look at non .world communities. .world is the more shitty instance filled with "um actually......" Style users and mods