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[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No true Scotsman. All religion is evil by nature of faith over evidence and magical thinking.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No true Scotsman

And above you is someone saying any Christian is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian. So what is a Christian to do?

They're not allowed to reject someone and the things they are saying because "No True Scotsman", but they are also held responsible for the things this other person does because they have not expelled them somehow, which is something they aren't allowed to do.

If you're going to say "No True Scotsman" then you can't also claim every "Scotsman" is responsible for the actions of every other "Scotsman".

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You won't like the answer. If you don't want to be lumped in with other magical thinkers, then don't be a magical thinker, else you're in the same boat and should be evaluated the same. All flavors are the same and all are destructive, just with differing exact details. It is possible to be a scientific thinker and be evil, but this can be changed with evidence on the whole, but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil, and those aspects cannot be changed as they are core to a faulty methodology of thinking which is pervasive, insidious, and pseudo-randomly aligned with changing educational theory. If you think it's possible to only align magical thinking with benevolent acts, you're wrong.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

So you're "No True Scotsman" was not in regards to "Christian" but in regards to "Religious"? I don't think OP was claiming these people aren't religious, OP was claiming that OP's beliefs and these people believes do not overlap.

Do you seriously think "Christian", "Buddhist" and "Hindu" are all the same?

but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil

Over 75% of people in the world in religious in some way or another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion

By your logic the world is overrun by evil people.