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I think it’s insane that proof of citizenship isn’t a requirement, and that states aren’t mandated to give IDs to their citizens
If a citizen loses their passport or birth certificate, should they be disenfranchised?
The extreme Christians would never go for that, because they equate it to the Mark of the Beast in the Bible. I'm not joking.
https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/just-time-independence-day-renewed-call-national-id-card
Most US citizens do not have a passport and I'm sure a large number have lost their birth certificate.
"We did it this way because that's how the discussion happened" isn't science, unless you're quoting Grace Hopper or a "5 monkey" experiment.
Speaking as a European here, just seems ridiculous to me, sorry for any misunderstandings, but y’all should have mandatory IDs and just use census data for voter registration
The Republican argument is that there is rampant voter fraud and so some type of proof of who you are is needed to allow voting and curtail all that fraud.
The truth is there is very little fraud at the voter level. They want to make voting difficult for certain groups of people who are more likely to not vote for them, and this is one route they take. Other methods are gerrymandering districts to favor their side more, not allowing more times and places for working people to have a chance to vote, and actual physical intimidation by their groupies near voting areas.
So this is just a problem invented in order to solve in ways that will help the right wing. Nothing more.
Now, there is a trend of repeated voting fraud, but it's not at the voter level, but at manipulation of voting counts through lawsuits, or outright alterations or loss of mass numbers of votes. Guess what party those votes tend to be leaning towards?
No. What a weird question. You go get another one at the DMV. It'll take you a half-hour.
Why the drama over a lost card?
Have you ever been to the DMV? If you show up without an appointment they tell you to come back at 4am to form a line.
No they haven't ever been in a DMV. They're not even in America.
If they've seen Zootopia they don't get why the sloths work the DMV in that movie.
Lucky! My local DMV doesn't take people without an appointment, and the only way to make an appointment is online. If you try over the phone they'll tell you to ask the nice people at the local library to help you.
Btw, they didn't tell the library about this policy. As a librarian, I do not like being an extension of the DMV, but I try and help my patrons. Including the dickhead that argued for the defunding of the library but now needs help making an appointment.
What fantasy world do you live in?
I don't live in bumpfuck nowhere, I live just outside a major metropolitan city. My wife had to wait 3 months to get her DL renewed and she had to drive over an hour to get to the office, IN A DIFFERENT FUCKING CITY!
Um. My son is getting his learner’s permit, we had to make an appointment at DMV, and the waitlist was 3 weeks. So, you sure about that?
When I moved to a new state, I went to the DMV without an appointment. I was there for over 5 hours and then it took nearly 3 months for my new license to arrive in the mail. When it did, they got my birthday wrong.
My old roommate waited 3 weeks to get a drivers license, and they spelled his name wrong on it.
Neither of those can be acquired at the DMV. It actually takes a long time to get a passport because they have to do a lot of checks. In certain cases you can pay to speed up the process but I doubt that'd be possible if people needed it to vote. Too many people in too short a window.
Verification of citizenship is already done, the burden just isn't on the citizen. You have to provide a lot of information to register and if it doesn't check out you won't get registered or you'll be arrested if you falsified something. Successfully registering when you're not a citizen requires either big lapses on the govt side or extensive personal info from a US citizen. This is why immigrants voting, legal or illegal, is incredibly rare.
Read article?
Oh, no thanks. I just ate.
Still insane that congress hasn't enacted mandatory ID’s for both voter registration (although you could and should go by census data) and hasn’t enacted mandatory ID’s more generally
I don't think you understand what the Census is in the United States.
Every 10 years, each household gets a long form to fill out. In it, you voluntarily list a ton of information about your household members. If you don't fill it out people (census workers) come around and try and get this information in person.
The census is only as accurate as the people filling it out.
You are objectively incorrect
funny the only states that mandate excessive amounts of ID, are red states. blue states make it possible for you to vote whenever it can. they dont have the fuckery the red states have with voting. low turnout almost always help republicans when used with Voter suppression.