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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

At some point, the people of Afghanistan should be able to take control of their own country. How can a vast majority of the people sit there and let a tiny percentage dictate the lives and rules for everyone? Kick the Taliban out of your country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No shit. The second we left they fell apart. No resistance.

As far as I'm concerned we should only help those that help themselves, like Ukraine is doing. Afghanistan has always been Taliban simps. Those women know where their men sleep and have knives ffs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah, we should only help white people right?

This is a great message for the world, we'll help you, as long as you're white

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The problem is that the Taliban have popular support. The media don't want to report it, but this is a society where public life has always been under the purview of men, it's a largely Muslim country, very rural, and the alternative power centers there are chock full of child molesters and corrupt individuals. The Taliban, despite their strong ideological position, has a lot going for them. They're not taking bribes to sell out their values. They're capable of maintaining stability. Even if people disagree with some or other things about them, theyre better than the alternatives. Fact is, they're in power there because they're the only organization capable of holding power there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it’s a largely Muslim country

Pretty much all the Abrahmic religions do this shit when they're in power...

I wouldn't have pointed it out, because it's kind of like saying the sky is blue. But from the rest of your comment it seems like you legitimately think it's just Muslims., And not that entire religious family

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not just Muslims that are fundamentalist extremists. But of every major religion, Islam has the highest rate of that kind of extremism. There are plenty of Christian countries which are socially progressive and endorse modern sensibilities. No Muslim countries are.

I have a dear friend of mine who is a religious minority in Egypt (she's a Copt). The paranoia that she and her parents have when interacting with Muslims is saddening, because of how it's been justified. Her church has lost several members to religious violence, and she's lived through a suicide bombing which happened at that church and targeted Christians.

I'm not saying there aren't Christian extremists. There are. But the Muslim extremist problem is an order of magnitude larger within that faith.

Judge individual Muslims for their own beliefs. But there is no Christian version of the Taliban state or ISIS. And Islam is to blame for the actions of its extremist adherents writ large. It desperately needs a religious reformation, but instead, the Saudis are still chopping the heads off of people who offend their religious police.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s not just Muslims that are fundamentalist extremists. But of every major religion, Islam has the highest rate of that kind of extremism

Not really...

There's over 1.7 billion Muslims in the world, that's a lot of people.

But there is no Christian version of the Taliban state or ISIS

So basically you're saying we can just ignore all the countries where they're trying to do it, just ignore them till their in power?

Nah, I don't see how that helps anyone except Christian extremists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not saying we should ignore anything. I'm saying we shouldn't ignore the extremely high rate of extremism within Islam.

But if you want to prove me wrong, point to a single Muslim country where apostasy and homosexuality are socially accepted

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I’m saying we shouldn’t ignore the extremely high rate of extremism within Islam.

And I'm saying you don't seem to understand how large a number 1.7 billion is...

But if you want to prove me wrong, point to a single Muslim country where apostasy and homosexuality are socially accepted

Lebanon

Can you name a country where the Christian majority do that?

They're openly against LGBT because "the Bible says so" and they claim they have to follow it.

The Bible also says if anyone even starts questioning if they should still be Christian, then they need to be executed to prevent the spread.

So they might not say it, but they're all about it, or just lying hypocrites who are making the personal choice to harass people who are LGBT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lebanon isn't a Muslim nation. It has a significant Muslim plurality. And homosexuality is de facto illegal there AND extremely socially unacceptable, with 85% of Lebanese people saying it should be "rejected by society."

Give me a Muslim nation where homosexuality and apostasy are both legal and socially acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lebanon isn’t a Muslim nation. It has a significant Muslim plurality

By that logic there's no "Christian country" to compare them too, and your point makes even less sense.

I'll be honest tho, I didn't think you'd last this long without openly being full of shit

Congrats? You made it two whole comments

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

That's what I thought.

There's not a single fucking Muslim country where I wouldn't face dramatic persecution as an apostate or my gay friends for loving who they do.