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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is my experience as well. It's also laughable that they call themselves communists and love China and Russia. Those people aren't communists, they are authoritarians.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's why I too am not a believer in horseshoe theory and actually agree that communism hasn't been practiced properly before. A peaceful emancipation of the common person is still unpracticed. If this is all tankies said, I'd be fine with it. But they say communism has never been practiced before along side arguments that the Soviet Union and China are communist. They are parroting real modern communists without understanding them and mixing in their revisionist history to create a paradox they don't seem too concerned about.

I think it's more about rebelling against their Reagan loving, USSR hating dads than sound political theory.

[–] FatCat@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Communism in practice is USSR and China type dictatorships. Fantasising about "real" "peaceful" communism ever existing is delusional.

If you want to abolish private property and there are people who disagree (and there will always be) the central power will need to "neutralize" them.

[–] Apollo42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is what Marx envisaged socialism as - the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.

Shame that every single time this has been attempted its been quashed externally or coopted internally by bad actors.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't that pretty much exactly what a "Tankie" is? An authoritarian communist? One that believes the revolution can only occur through state violence?

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think it should be updated, as Russia and China are not communist and those people love them.

I feel like the "communism" was used, because "authoritarianism" sounds worse.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Communism is inherently authoritarian. Thus they're Communists.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Source: your anus.