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What will it take to grow open source Lemmy, ActivityPub, ATProtocol, & other platforms/apps/websites? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Curious what you all thought for what things like Lemmy, Revolt, Mastodon, PeerTube, Bluesky, Flashes, etc would need to be able to grow fast and well to get many users joining up

Because it's high time everyone drops all the way less than ideal platforms/apps/websites/news sources

I'll add on too:

Content creators that are engaging, clear, & entertaining explaining things with great videos showing Fediverse, etc stuff will help in various ways

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As the growth of Bluesky showed, most users do not care about decentralization as much as they care about usability. In his talk at ATmosphereConf last month, Paul Frazee explained that this is why his team built ATProto instead of using ActivityPub.

What I'd like to see is someone build an ATProto forum like Lemmy, and for it to be fully federated with Lemmy using Bridgy Fed.

EDIT: I know about frontpage.fyi. It does not have communities/subforums, so I would consider it more of a Hacker News replacement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

As the growth of Bluesky showed

If you've got marketing money, even Chinese spyware apps make it to the top. see Tiktok. So, growth is not always a good metric for what works.

Bluesky is just a pseudo decentralization platform that's built as a controlled opposition and will make the same moves as twitter when it reaches critical mass. It's got money to market itself as "different" and shareholders will soon want return of investment and there's much to be made off of being a government surveillance apparatus.

Nothing should be made off of ATProto.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You could make a better UX on ActivityPub without inventing a new, incompatible protocol that has a centralization problem. Email is decentralized just fine. They could have also made proposals to ActivityPub or extending it like most applications do. It is just venture capital bullshit cloning Tvitter which makes it more familiar rather than an objectively easier UX.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that what https://frontpage.fyi/ is?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not ready for prime time. It's also not bridged.

Also, Lemmy is not bridged because Bridgy Fed requires users to opt-in by following a certain account, and we can't do that on Lemmy.