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Curious what you all thought for what things like Lemmy, Revolt, Mastodon, PeerTube, Bluesky, Flashes, etc would need to be able to grow fast and well to get many users joining up

Because it's high time everyone drops all the way less than ideal platforms/apps/websites/news sources

I'll add on too:

Content creators that are engaging, clear, & entertaining explaining things with great videos showing Fediverse, etc stuff will help in various ways

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Userbase being more friendly towards different ideologies.

People don't want to admit it. But this is a very toxic place for people who are not of a very specific ideology.

And when confronted about it the usual response is "I don't want people thinking like that here" which is a rephrase of "I just want people like me here". Which is ok, but inconsistent with a wish for growth as the idea of people turning your ideology because you think you are so convincing it's a fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Platforms and protocols should be tools first and foremost, sure, but communities should never be tolerant of fascists and nazis. Any viable platform should have, at the absolute bare minimum, enforced rules against hate speech, which is something that's not remotely enforced on any big platform today.

Letting the right run rampant is why social media is in the state its in today, and a shift to open platforms is our chance to take these spaces back and show the right that they're not welcome in society as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I don't mean fascist or nazis, obviously ban those. But, you know, the real ones. Not the "everyone who is slightly more right wing than myself is a nazi". I'm not right wing but I do enjoy the company of normal right wingers. And here sometimes it gets a little boring knowing that for most things everyone has the same opinion on most issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I've felt more free to express my thinking here than I ever did elsewhere. Except for a tech focused one that I got dogpiled on by people arguing in bad faith about the crowdstrike fiasco.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Funny, to me it's kind of the opposite - we need to give diversified environments where people can feel welcome, not trying to jam everyone into one big "community" which is anything but.

I think that's what was great about the forum and personal website era. If you wanted a place where you can use edgy language and spend your time shitting on things, there's a website you could go to. Unicorns and hopeposting are over here. Nerds and geeks are over there.

That doesn't mean segregating and creating ideology bubbles. Everyone can visit and be part of any, and can stay well away from the ones you know you don't like. Take /b/ for example: it is famous for having a certain demographic, and if you don't want to see it, you simply don't go there. It's not in your face, they're happy about not having "normies" there, you're happy about not having them in your digital home, every one wins. And if you're ever in a certain mood and would like to venture in the woods, it's there.

The same set of rules can't fit all the possible users, purposes, times, etc. And although I also subscribed to the thought bubble theory , the counterargument that it's actually the opposite - the lack of "social glue" between participants in discussions, made a lot of sense to me.

Kurzgesagt - The Internet Is Worse Than Ever - Now What? (YT)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Also go forbid you have any criticism towards Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The principles of operation of the fediverse are actually very aligned with the “small government, personal freedom, free speech” ethos that conservatives in the US claim to have.

The culture on most fedi spaces is hostile towards anything less than luxury gay space communism politically but it’s pretty easy to ignore because the power structure of the fediverse is ideal and makes it so you filter out the very worst of the tankies if you so choose.

Now if you are a fascist who is only concerned about dominating others opinions and rights, and only care about freeze peach and not freedom of association and expression I can see how you might find the fediverse objectionable.

The fedi needs more voices from all sides, it does not need fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I agree. Straight up fascist out. Nobody need a fascist. But I do miss liberals (in the european sense) or conservatives /republicans (from US perspective).

It gives little more variety to a place.

For instance it would be nice to have people defending tariffs and getting some discussion on those, see different points of view and such. I like to be intellectually challenged, and it's hard sometimes when I agree with most people here in most topics and in the ones I don't agree people tends to be very hostile. I think that when most people think the same way that leads to some feral behavior to those who write any different opinion.