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Wealthy business leaders are turning on US President Donald Trump over his plan to impose a colossal set of tariffs on America’s trading partners, as losses mount on stock markets around the world.

Yeah, because of course they are. I mean, it's not like they could have POSSIBLY known how bad the shitgibbon would shit the bed, right? RIGHT?!

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Maybe you are right, but I would not underestimate how quickly things can change. The did change quickly with Trump, did they not?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I realized around 2012 to 2014 that republican voters were not being led astray by extremist politicians. The politicians were more reasonable than the average voter. The party leadership like John Boehner were holding the base in check.

That is less true now. John McCain has passed away. Mitt Romney is in the wilderness. The lunatics are running the asylum.

Now we are in the find out phase for the average voter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would say people with principled political views are in the minority, whether they are on the left or on the right. Most people just parrot what everyone else and the politicians say. People don't like to think about these matters too deeply and vague emotions can be used(by politicians) in many ways.

In any case, which extreme positions are you referring to specifically? Or rather, which positions are extreme and integral to their programme?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not a coherent ideology. People know things are bad but they have no idea how to fix them. They seem to want people to suffer and they don't care to listen to reasons they shouldn't do things or why the things they want will hurt them.

Immigration is an example. Deporting 11 million people will require a police state. It will inevitablly catch up innocent's. It will harm the economy. Increase inflation, and it helps rich assholes depress wages and exploit workers.

Besides all of that, it's cruel.

Their ideas about trans people are the same way. Vibes. Trans people feel icky so there aught to be a law. They don't care that they are punishing parents trying to do the best by their children. They don't care they are denying children healthcare. They don't care that when they self righteously storm into bathrooms they nearly always find a cis woman that's a little tall with short hair. They don't care about doctors or the world health organization or the American psychology association or the American pediatrics alliance or any other creditialed institution.

Their ideas about abortion are the same. They feel like it's wrong so it needs to be illegal. They don't care about doctors that can't practice or the women that will die from miscarriage or the state getting involved in personal healthcare. No amount of death or suffering of real live people is as important as their idea of a person.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They feel like it's wrong so it needs to be illegal.

They believe it to be immoral, so they want it to be illegal, yes. Is that not how people usually decide what should be legal and what shouldn't?

Also, it seems disingenuous to say that

No amount of death or suffering of real live people is as important as their idea of a person.

I would say one can be opposed to abortions, and still care about other people. Clearly.

The state already regulates which practices may or may not be performed by doctors. This is hardly different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

"ah yes humans are flawed."

You sound like a preacher saying "only God is perfect. You can't fix human nature."

I outlined how each of these beliefs leaves everyone worse off.

What were we discussing again?

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