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No need to put home in quotes. Jews are native to the region of today's Palestine/Israel as Arabs and Muslims are.
If I lived in your neighborhood and came and kicked you out of your house at gunpoint would that be OK because I am "native to the region"?
What does "native to the region" even mean ethically or legally? "Regions" arent how land ownership works. Its a nonsense term designed to imply ownership where no ownership exists. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing that nonsense.
I just wanted to say that Jews and many Arab ethnicities have historically lived in the region of Levante, which is today's Israel and Palestine. And therefore both people claim the land to be theirs, which is historically correct in both cases. I wasn't even implying one of the groups have more of a right to it than the other.
No. Thats not the way land ownership works. Its not the international understanding, the palestinian understanding, or the torah understanding. So where did you pull that understanding from exactly? From your rear, right. As some sort of lame excuse to retroactively justify terrorism and the land theft they terrorize for. You should be ashamed of yourself. And if you are in any civilized country you should be tried and then punished for supporting terrorism. Your views are not OK.
And if you go further back, we all came from Africa. Who fucking cares?
People were driven from their ancestral homes. I could not care less if the people doing the driving out had a great great great great great great great Uncle that probably lived in that general area. That's meaningless.
That's true, Zionism is explicitly about the ethnic cleansing of the native Palestinians and settler colonialism. There has always been Jewish and Christian Palestinians in historic Palestine
That's simply not true and almost bigotry. You have all the reason and right to hate the Israeli government and their war crimes, but you can't generalize all Zionism because of the action of the Israeli government.
Major copium. I think maybe you've twisted the definition of "Zionism" into something a little more vague that allows you to continue supporting the thing you want to support without feeling bad.
The person above you's definition of Zionism is completely accurate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism
Zionism has always been a fascist ideology.
Quotes
The Birth of Israel Myths and Realities
10 myths of Israel by Ilan Pappe
Israeli historian Ilan Pappe: ‘This is the last phase of Zionism’
Ethnic Cleansing prior to 1948:
Planned occupation and the beginnings of systemic apartheid:
1967 war: Haaretz, Forward
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
Historian Works on the History
Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History - Nur Masalha
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
10 Myths About Israel - Ilan Pappe (summery)
Adi Callai has done a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history
Okay, antisemite.
Anti-zionism is not Antisemitism. Your conflation of the two is genuinely antisemitic.
Zionism is anti-Semitic at it's core, it other-izes Jewish people, and justifies the violent settler colonialim of Israel as in the defense of all Jewish people, which only serves to further fuel genuine Antisemitism at the expense of Jewish people globally. Zionism is also an inherently fascist ideology. The ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine has always been fundamental since it's inception as a colonialist movement.
Oh fantastic! My ancestors are mostly Scottish, I didn't realise when I moved here to Scotland that I could just TAKE some land! Off to appropriate my next door neighbour's back garden, they aren't using it much. Next week: taking over the house my great great grandfather built. It's by the beach!
The quotes were because "home" both is and isn't the right word. There are a lot of people in this world who might still think of the house they grew up in as "home" on some level, but in many cases, that property is in the hands of strangers now.
For example, I have a relative who not only lived in but was born in a house that remained in the family until a couple of decades ago, and I think they'd dearly love to be able to go back there. Even so, I don't think the current occupants would be best pleased if my relative decided to go "home" without some kind of arrangement, especially if they decided they were going to move in.
Feel free to generalise or pick apart this metaphor.
Fair enough, I agree.