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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yep, because Taiwan is a country, and the real China.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

USA is East Alaska.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Occupied mainland Taiwan

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.

The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.

As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.

As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

4 paragraphs of response... Is this a bot response? Or did you just take my comment way too serious?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It's a direct comparison to what calling the PRC "West Taiwan" means. It means you uphold the Nationalist Kuomintang as the wrongfully overthrown dictatorship that should have never lost the Chinese Civil War.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.

The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.

As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.

As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Holy copy-pasta, batman!

Can I get a delicious cookie recipe as well?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I thought Taiwan was an independent country?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So it's not an independent country?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You need to try harder to make me answer you. This is very low-effort trolling. Show me some actual trolling, tankie, cmon.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So they aren't an independent country?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

Go back to reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Basically the People’s Republic of China (China) says that Taiwan is part of China, while the Republic of China (Taiwan) refers to the area under its control as “the Taiwan area,” or “the free area.” It refers to the rest of China as “the mainland area,” which the Taiwanese government has described as being under a “Period of Communist Rebellion.”

You can read this sum up here: Link.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So they aren't an independent country?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did you read the link or are you just here to troll? According to the UN, they're not recognized. Some smaller countries recognize them as an independent though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

They’re a massive debate troll.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So they're not separate from China?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They don't even consider themselves separate. They believe "China" is just in a period of rebellion. Right at the end of the article is your answer: "Until Taiwan formally declares itself independent of the rest of China — or until Taiwan is recognized by the international community as being independent of the rest of China — Taiwan’s status as a country will continue to be questioned."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

inb4 this comment gets downvoted by tankies

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

It is sad. Everyone is gloating, cheering on a possible conflict in the future. We've seen this kind of escalation and warmongering in 2013 in Ukraine. "Of course that country on the doorstep of our big geopolitical rival should be independent and join our military pact! Hahaha lololol!"