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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I hate the CCP, with the number one reason being that they support the russians (I am Ukrainian).

That being said I also oppose their imperialism, authoritarianism and social conservatism.

But I find myself considering whether China is perhaps (as a matter of a lack of choices) a better option than the US. It genuinely pains me to say this.

I empathize with the population of Taiwan. I remember Jan 2022 and Dec 2021 when everyone in Ukraine was contemplating the potential (for that time) for a full scale russian invasion. And then the full scale invasion happened in late Feb 2022.

But the Americans leave me no option. One third of their population are deeply corrupt and dishonest, they are proto-fascist, if not outright fascist. On some level it is worth considering whether they are a "lost cause". Another third might not be openly fascist, but they will support any evil (if it doesn't immediately impact them directly) for a discount coupon at the local McDonalds. They are the textbook definition of nihilists.

And then you have the final third part of the population. They know something is wrong, but they are too conformist and lack the risk tolerance to make a move. For better or for worse they are too well off (in the global sense) to be willing to take risks. American fascists will take them down one by one, until there is no leadership left.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

I’m an American in that third group, theoretically quite comfortable, as a software developer with a six figure salary living in the Midwest.

I have no rebuttal. What you wrote is scarily accurate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

It's the betrayal. The US were supposed to be our allies, our friends. And now a large part of their population have shown their true colours. They will burn all the bridges they've built over decades at the whims of a fascist moron.

If this is what the US are now, this fascist, law neglecting state. Then I'm not sure they are a lesser evil. I'm struggling to see how the current regime is any better than the CCP. And that's saying a lot.

It sucks that we have to deal with one fully authoritarian state and one wannabe as the two major states

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

As an American not really in any of the groups (retired, living abroad) this is spot on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I think the US have certainly shown that we are not a reliable ally, and for Ukraine specifically, I don't think it would be unfair to say we're straight up your enemy, now that our president is a Russian asset.