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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not just the American will be fuck. It will be a financial meltdown.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On one hand I agree with you. This won't only impact the US. Perhaps we'll get hit harder than the Americans (at least some parts of the world).

On the other hand I would argue the rest of the world is much more connected on a visceral level. The Americans have their feet and legs, when the world uses meters and centigrade. American prices are always provided on a list basis (and local oligarchs and their shills constantly lie that modern software solutions can't apply local tax adjustment algorithms on a dynamic basis), the rest of the world has true prices (only in English would one have to clarify what you mean by true prices).

I am not saying that only Americans will get fucked, but the rest of the world has a measure of dynamism that Americans don't (not to mention a much higher tolerance to challenges).

Perhaps there are some long terms benefits to Trump's behaviour. We can find alternative to American-style corruption and degeneracy. While there are many sane Americans, they also need to take a more sober attitude to their current situation and be willing to take risks and be less arrogant about "home of the brave" and similar polemics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Yes maybe like Lemmy, a more federated type trade rather than centralize financial/ currency wise. That will be great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds healthy in the long run. We have way too much financial economy leeching off of the real economy. It needs to melt down to a reasonable size.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

be careful to what you wish for.

If U.S. Treasuries were to experience a significant meltdown, it could lead to a widespread erosion of trust in the bond market. Many countries rely on the issuance of bonds to finance essential infrastructure development—roads, bridges, schools, and hospitals. If borrowing costs rise sharply due to increased risk perceptions (not paying back/defaulting), governments may be forced to scale back or abandon critical projects. This could stifle economic growth, reduce job creation, and ultimately lead to a decline in living standards.

I don't disagree on your reasonable size point but there is a way to get there rather than breaking it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like something that could be solved by proper taxation of wealth and profits from capital.

Like at the time when the US and other countries were experiencing their greatest economic boom, best infrastructure for the time and best access to education and economic opportunities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

We still had treasuries and bonds to help finance that stuff even when we had a more progressive tax structure