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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What’s that strange curve in Russia? Trying to avoid flying over something specific?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would be the Ural mountains.

There are several trans-continental routes crossing Russia (N/S, most ending at Aktobe, Kazakhstan, continuing to Dubai), most of them are grouped either on the west or the east side of the Urals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What would happen if you flew over the mountains anyway? Would the turbulence spill your coffee or something worse?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Either ATC would have you copy a phone number, or the military would send you a high-explosive welcome package. Not sure which is worse.

I don't know exactly why, but there's a conspicuous lack of navigation waypoints over the Urals. It's probably not a safe idea to have aircraft cross over a mountain range when it can be avoided. Most of the airways cross directly west-to-east.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Checking the map here, maybe they're going well around Moscow airspace? Also, if they were to take a straighter shot from Greenland today, they'd be flying through an active war zone, that's surely worth avoiding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wasn’t there this one civilian flight that got shot by a missile when it went over a warzone? I recall hearing some news about it like 10 years ago. Can’t remember who shot them though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would be Malaysian Airlines 17, shot down by a Russian surface-to-air missile over Donetsk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that’s the one. Sounds like a good idea to steer clear of war zones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think the most direct path would be over Ukraine and they're going around so the curve is to come back in? Just a guess.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's avoiding the Ural mountains. Even straightening out that curve on the southward leg of the route would still only pass over the Caspian sea, which is still quite far from Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I thought that it could be mountains, but I couldn’t seen any on the map.