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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Needs to be daily before anything happens

Once, in a weekend, means nothing. We need to be out there constantly, everyday

This is a good start, but it's only a very very quiet start

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was at one yesterday and while you’re 100% right, I’m hoping that what we’re doing right now is building a head of steam, the US has never really protested on this scale before and getting everyone out is gonna take time to organize. Next one is set for the 19th. If we get a bigger turn out then and keep it up that’s how we generate the momentum for daily protests and general strikes going. It’s not enough at all but I was encouraged by the turn out I saw versus other rallies this year

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Speaking with some organizers... that is exactly the point: build steam to kick off a mass movement in the streets, if needed.

[–] cooperativesrock@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Yes! All the people saying "not enough" or "it needs to be a certain way" need to STFU. The US does not have a protest culture, we're building one right now. Protests are growing in size and frequency and people are boycotting businesses and it is hurting the companies being boycotted. Target is reporting fewer people coming into their stores and sales are down. Tesla is self reporting 13% decline in sales and the stock is losing value. Things are working and we're building up our resistance. We need to keep it up.

Those who are critical of the efforts, put up a better idea (that people will realistically do) and show the receipts. Otherwise you might as well be a fascist cause you're helping their side.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, look at Serbia. And they are only partway through as well.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Serbia's been under their oppressive government for ten years now. Is only been 3 months in the US. The comparisons to Turkey and Serbia are completely ridiculous.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're right, a better comparison might be Hungary.

  • Orbán achieved near-unlimited power solely because of the ineptitude of the corporate-beholden "left"
  • Protest movements started immediately with no clear, realistic and actionable goals and are still going strong 15 years later, yet nobody in power cares
  • Orbán started by attacking and dismantling key government institutions like the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Labour, replacing them (and a few others) with a joint Ministry of Human Resources
  • The "left" parties and their leaders were mostly squabbling between themselves, either never giving up the "mantle of the leadership of the left" or trying to protect their own small grifts that were going
  • In the meantime, voting districts were redrawn and the voting system was changed to benefit the ruling party
  • Disenfranchised citizens effectively became a pool of voter/workers beholden to the local party-aligned municipalities, who can be threatened with taking away their sub-minimum wage
  • The country was shifted into a manufacturing-focused economy which again produced a large pool of people who can be threatened with their jobs into voting the right way
  • Constant threats of war and migration are exploited to call for wartime emergency powers for the government to sidestep the checks and balances that haven't been dismantled yet

Strap in, for us it took 16 years to get out of it, if we get out of it next year. The way out seems to be a combination of:

  • a major economic crisis
  • the emergence of a new, "non-partisan, no left no right" political party, grounded solely on anti-corruption
  • the fact that finally, after a quarter century, the fake "leftist" parties are polling below 5% collectively and thus will get ousted from Parliament