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I like Rand Paul's version where the Republicans lose the House and the Senate for 60 years.
Still not sure whether it's worth the carnage though.
People forget after 4 years. It's not like Trump's first administration was great for anyone but the people that got the giant tax cuts.
Like people forgot the Great Depression? It's possible you're underestimating how bad this collapse will be.
I was born in 1970, and some of the adults around when I was a kid still lived like at any day the rug could be pulled out from under them.
They might not forget that it happened, but not who was responsible.
From 32 to 52 a Democrat was president, the Republicans lost the House and Senate pretty much constantly for 60 years, sounds to me like people remember, you just want to argue for the sake of arguing.
You’re talking about a time when the internet didn’t exist. Your points are valid but so are the other person’s who are focusing on more recent data.
With the Internet there's all the more reasons why people will remember it for longer.
We need to realize that the scale might be different, but disinformation and propaganda in mass media was very much a thing a hundred years ago!
I think it's less access to information, it's more about being bombarded with information that you can't remember everything, and you can easily forget things you already know or confuse that memory with another misinformation that was repeated many times.
Again, recent examples have shown that people easily forgot how bad Trump's first term was, and it has nothing to do with not having access to said information.
Yup. It was radios, news papers, pamphlets, people travelling giving speeches, etc.
Disinformation and propaganda has been around for centuries.
https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
Interesting read
Problem is all those that could remember are dead.
Yep my step grandmother grew up in the depression and she would buy a enough groceries to feed an army every week. Even though it was only here in the house. She had boxes of cereal from freaking 80's on the shelf and deep freezers and I mean 2 to 3 full of meat. You didn't her cooking it was so bad meat gone freezer rot. But she couldn't help it. She was child during the depression she talk about it often and how bad it was.
My grandmother also live through the depression. She would save half a cracker with some cheese on it for the next day. I don't think I saw her waste a morsel of food in 30 years.
Wasn’t as painful for the general population as this. He is more destructive in ways that directly affect the majority this time. He can’t coast off the democratic economy with these moves. Republicans actually care when things affect them.
Millions of people died unnecessarily because nobody had PPE.
And Republicans thought that was nothing. Their pocket books are affected now. I’m not agreeing with their logic, I am going off the grumblings I am seeing now versus then. I live in a very red area.
Our temporarily displaced millionaires are about to be permenantly displaced by their own rage.
He's killing off the very foundation of our economic empire. It's fucking madness.
People were voting against Dems for inflation that was largely from summer of 2022. Bear markets/recessions usually last 15 months.
If Trump keeps this stupid shit up for more than a week, the Republicans will have a bloodbath. Look no further than the elections of 1890.
It wasn't even the tax cuts i feel like those covid checks with his name on them really sealed the deal.
They helped a lot. Biden really should've put his name on the bigger checks he sent
I’m not sure there will be a House or a Senate by the time all is said and done here. Or a United States, for that matter.
Do we have a house or Senate now? Everything is executive orders instead of legislation
I get what you mean, but I’m thinking more along the lines of what Palpatine does in A New Hope.