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If all you do is web browse and play games, you should be able to use Linux without the CLI just fine.
I installed Ubuntu in a VM to torrent with mulvad. I had to go to the command line. Worse was googling gave multiple contradictory instructions that further reading yielded "deprecated".
I made it work because I've been doing it for 30 years. Anyone else would be better with Windows where it just works.
This is the most Lemmy interaction I've seen in awhile:
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I'm not complaining, just watching in admiration of you all.
I mean. I don't mind CLI, but I found it ridiculous that there seems to be no default text editor on Ubuntu. Like, I couldn't look into a text file without pulling up the terminal.
The Linux community is able to agree on many things... But what you ask... It's just too much...
(I'm making a humorous reference to the constant arguments about the best editor... But... Also conceding your point.)
Do we not have a default graphical text editor?
I'm enough of an editor snob that I don't even know what the default is... If there is one.
I can see how I'm probably part of the problem, in this case.
Yeah, it's kinda adorable to watch actually.
Huh, why not just use QBittorrent? I've never even felt the need to reach for the command line with torrents (Linux ISOs of course) because it works so well.
Yes it was QBitTorrent. The problem was getting mulvad out of the VM while letting QBitTorrent use a local network share to save files. I needed everything to be static ips.
Would you have been able to create your specific use case on Windows? Because most people don't try "getting mulvard out of the VM". That's the type of thing that's in my experience usually (I don't know about this case specifically - that's why I'm asking) a lot easier on Linux than on Windows (not that it's easy)
The reason I brought it up was because it worked without problems in a Windows VM. But I really didn't want to run Windows so I worked on Linux until it worked.
you haven't been using torrents, Ubuntu, or VPNs for 30 years. why would you lie about that?
I've been using Linux for 30+ years so using a command line isn't a problem. In fact my experience is a problem because my goto commands and config files have all been deprecated.
For example I immediately tried ifconfig. You're probably too young to even know that command.
no... i still haven't figured out what i'm supposed to use instead.
ifconfig was deprecated in 2009. I got into Linux in the last 10 years and still used ifconfig. Sure, it's deprecated and no longer included in most modern installs, but you can still download and use it as before. A lot of guides online used ifconfig, so it's a pretty common package for inexperienced users to download, even if deprecated.
Which is exactly what I said if you'd stop being hostile. I tried ifconfig, it wasn't there. Googled saw instructions for both ifconfig and ip. Read more saw ifconfig deprecated. Saw /network/interfaces is deprecated. But when you Google it shows that and systemd information. As I said, I knew enough to know what I was reading and got it working.
Mate reread my comment. I'm not the one being hostile
Unfortunately I'm a software developer...
I can use a CLI, but I'd rather not.
Vibe coder? 😏
MORE REALISTIC MORE REALISTIC
You mean more cow bell?
Gross