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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (50 children)

Protest votes did not meaningfully impact the election

Its a pathetic excuse to hate fellow poor people

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (45 children)

As I said in another thread elsewhere on the same subject a while back:

The Protest Vote Paradox™

As we’ve all read time after time in the months leading up to the election, the Protest Vote™ simply states states that:

“We refuse to vote against a Tyrant-Felon in order to send a clear and concise message that we will not stand for [roll D20 for random popular single issue], and alongside our refusal to vote against the Tyrant-Felon, is a collective hope that the aforementioned clear and concise message- if ignored, is received under unmitigated duress!”

-Cut to Tyrant-Felon’s win, and the aftermath:

Whether observed or not, the behavior of the Protest Voter will attempt to achieve the following:
• Obnoxiously tell everyone: “We told you all what would happen!”
• Onnoxiously claim there is: “No way protest voting could cause trump to win.”

As both of these options cannot simultaneously be true in the same reality without breaking important time-space things that we would probably prefer not be broken- we are left with only a few logical conclusions:

  1. Protest voters have no idea what they’re talking about.
  2. Protest voters don’t understand the concept of hypocrisy.
  3. Protest voters have somehow learned to defy reality and become exempt from the concept of paradoxes, thus creating an entirely new study of theoretical science, known as Bulletproof Symbiotic Hypocrisy Theory, or BLsHt.

Something, something, something Ted Talk.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (44 children)

This is just a long-winded, inverted version of the aphorism about liberals' paradoxical view of progressives; they're a small, niche group, and the Democrats shouldn't try to appease them because they'll just alienate mainstream voters by courting this insignificant block of voters. However, progressives are somehow also a large, powerful cabal that can be blamed for every major Democratic loss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Name one moment in history where abstaining from the bare mimimim to avoid catastrophic consequences results in a net gain.

I ask this because you’re trying to make this party thing where I’d title paring attention and reading for context- you’ll see clearly that It’s an ACTION thing.

Interesting that you went to progressives so quickly though. Especially since I never even mentioned the word.

That says a LOT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Name one moment in history where abstaining from the bare mimimim to avoid catastrophic consequences results in a net gain.

Name a point where I said abstaining from voting was good. My point wasn't that protest voting was good. It was that you could make the exact opposite point (with a lot fewer words) using your exact logic. Which means it's not a good point.

I ask this because you’re trying to make this party thing where I’d title paring [you mean "try paying," maybe?] attention and reading for context- you’ll see clearly that It’s an ACTION thing.

Again, fine, let's make it an action thing. If the protest voters were so necessary to Harris' election, why didn't she take any actions to win them over? That was incredibly irresponsible of her.

Are you beginning to see how all your arguments can be flipped just as easily to place the blame on the candidate instead of the voters? Do you think maybe that's because, even though you've convinced yourself that what your saying is cold, hard logic, your actually just screaming your opinions at people?

For the record, I voted for Harris out of harm reduction, and I wish she'd won. However, I believe that it is a candidates job to win an election, not the voters job to get them elected. If there was a significant contingent of voters withholding their vote, I think that candidate must have been doing a shitty job.

Interesting that you went to progressives so quickly though. Especially since I never even mentioned the word.

That says a LOT.

Yeah, it says I saw more than 2 minutes of political coverage in 2024, so I knew that Harris wasn't getting criticism for being too progressive. Grow up.

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