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Berlin’s immigration authorities are moving to deport four young foreign residents on allegations related to participation in protests against Israel’s war on Gaza, an unprecedented move that raises serious concerns over civil liberties in Germany.

The deportation orders, issued under German migration law, were made amid political pressure and over internal objections from the head of the state of Berlin’s immigration agency.

The internal strife arose because three of those targeted for deportation are citizens of European Union member states who normally enjoy freedom of movement between E.U. countries. None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I'm not supporting illegal deportation, but I'm also not supporting true "I really just hate jews because they are jews"-antisemites that unfortunately feel right at home in valid protests against Israel's actions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (24 children)

protests are public, those people are gonna show up no matter how progressive the protest.

most antisemites in Germany are pro-Israel, people that go at AfD marches to support their party's line of Zionism by all means necessary in order to bring about the rapture of Jewish people from the Holy Lands.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

protests are public, those people are gonna show up no matter how progressive the protest.

Not necessarily, no. Organizers can publicly distance themselves from unwanted people beforehand and during speeches, as well as check people's banners and clothing, and that will generally help quite a bit.

most antisemites in Germany are pro-Israel, people that go at AfD marches

I don't experience it like that. I think the right wing is genuinely split over whether to support a Jewish religiously-defined state or whether to support anything anti-Jewish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

which banners and clothing do you want to be censored? if you mean Free Palestine and from the river to the sea, don't even bother as you'd be outing yourself as a zionist

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Primo job jumping to conclusions. I was naming examples of actions. How organizers implement them is not something I am going to have a say in anyway.

I am saying though that interactions like this are probably unnecessary: https://files.catbox.moe/ssct8w.mp4 If you don't understand German: The "reporter" is an Afd member who is asking a pro-Palestine protester about the historical Nazis and the protester responds that he likes the number "6 million" [as in 6 million Jews killed during Holocaust]. Also, ftr: I do not endorse using the Jandl quote over the video in this context.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't research this particular incident if all you give out is a video without sources from local media saying whether he experienced repercussions or not.

I don't get what this is supposed to prove, that anyone can put on a keffiyeh and say Nazi shit?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not local media, it's literally a nazi live streamer filming people for profit. Nonetheless, it's proving that it's not always hard to tease out actual antisemitism from a subset of the people attending pro-Palestine demonstrations. And I do find that a credibility issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree and also, what the fuck does this have to do with anti-genocide protesters getting deported?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

That's how the thread evolved. It likely has nothing to do with the four people from the article though.

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