this post was submitted on 31 Mar 2025
32 points (97.1% liked)
CanadaPolitics
2616 readers
75 users here now
Placeholder for any r/CanadaPolitics refugees
Rules
- Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.
Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I mean, they weren't offering a policy at all. They had no plan, no specifics. They said they would take away one thing, but never gave details about what they would replace it with, and "nothing" was never an option.
They offered no policy.
This is policy. This has specifics. There is a plan attached to this.
Moreover, you can't truly hold Carney accountable for Trudeau's lack of action. He wasn't there, he wasn't involved. You may as well hold the NDP accountable for not getting it done while Trudeau was beholden to their support agreement.
Or hold the NDP accountable for all of the provinces they've made government in and never changed the electoral system. Who's actually worth trusting on this?
I appreciate your perspective, but there are several points worth clarifying.
First, the Liberals did have specific plans for electoral reform. The entire Electoral Reform Committee process produced clear recommendations for proportional representation after extensive consultation. The problem wasn't a lack of plan—it was that the plan (proportional representation) didn't align with Trudeau's preference for Alternative Vote, a system that would have benefited the Liberal Party.
Regarding Carney's accountability: while he wasn't personally involved, he's now leading a party with an established pattern of promising electoral reform without delivering. Since Mackenzie King in 1919, Liberals have campaigned on PR during multiple elections. Carney has been notably vague when asked about his position, despite being an economist who should understand the mathematics of fair representation. When an intelligent person is "uncertain" about ensuring every vote counts, it suggests political calculation rather than genuine indecision.
As for the NDP's provincial record, this "whataboutism" doesn't address the fundamental issue: our electoral system systematically discards millions of valid votes. At the federal level, 87% of NDP, Green, and Bloc MPs supported a Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform in 2024, while 68.6% of Liberal MPs opposed it. Actions speak louder than words.
The housing policy comparison misses the point. Electoral reform isn't just another policy—it's the foundation that determines how all other policies are made. The mathematical reality remains: in our democracy, citizens are deserving of and entitled to representation in government, and only proportional representation can dependably deliver that.
Democracy requires that every vote counts and affects outcomes. This isn't a partisan position—it's a democratic principle.