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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (21 children)

As we already discussed, if the vast majority of Marxists fit the definition of "tankie" you gave, then it's just a pejorative for Marxists. The Black Panther Party supported and was influenced by the DPRK, if you count that as "glorifying," in your own words, then the Black Panthers were tankies. If you don't, and believe them to have been sufficiently nuanced, then "tankies" practically do not exist on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Alright, forget the word tankie.
People who

  • Support modern russia and/or are opposed to Ukraine
  • Deny that the Uyghurs were mistreated by china
  • Think the DRPK is a nice place to live right now.
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

Most Marxists do not uncritically support Russia, though opposition to the Nationalists like Azov in Ukraine is something common on the Left, and believe Russia's anti-US stance is beneficial for the Global South (see the string of African liberation movements in the past few years). Most Marxists can agree that the Uyghur people have been placed in re-education camps, but most do not believe they are being systemically murdered en masse like many people report. Most Marxists think the DPRK is doing surprisingly well for a country under extreme embargoes and was subject to more tons of bombs than the pacific front in World War II, not that it would be preferable to live there than in a highly developed country free from those problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Maybe they should stop playing devils advocate for Russia in general, If you have to have a conversation about the Genocidal Mob state, and throw a bunch of ifs, ands, or buts in the discussion. You're already stoking trouble.

America can be bad, and Russia can be equally bad in the same instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Russia is not a global Hegemon. Even if it wanted to be as bad as the US, it physically can't do nearly the damage the US does on a daily basis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Even if it wanted to be as bad as the US

They are currently invading and occupying multiple neighbouring countries.

And unlike the places the US goes to, life is far worse under Russian occupation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US is the world's largest Empire. It plunders the Global South on a constant basis, and has committed numerous genocides and invasions. From Palestine to Korea to Iraq to Vietnam to Angola to Nicaragua to Afghanistan to Cambodia to the Phillipines to many, many more places, the US is on a ceaseless slaughter-course.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

Uh huh, yup, cool.

Not what we were talking about at all, but okey dokey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The US is neck deep in a genocide far worse than anything Russia is doing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, sorry, I forgot. They only practice corruption, warmongering, barbaric mass murder and ethnocide on a regional scale. I apologize

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The US does it on a global scale, which is worse in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

equally bad

not by a long shot, and thats the point.

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